(January 3, 2011 at 3:41 pm)Rayaan Wrote: Oh, so the "slick package" are the supposed eye-witnesses of the apostles and disciplines of Jesus. This means the Muslim package is not as "slick" then (which is a good thing).
Agreed. A crude lie is better than a slick one because it's easier to spot.
Quote:Then tell me, exactly what are those things which Muhammad said that people got it all wrong about Jesus?
That he was divine, an intercessor for mortals with God, who's sacrifice redeemed us from sin. That much all the branches of Christianity seemed to agree on.
Quote:The eye-witness accounts do not offer any testimony about Jesus because the Muslims didn't even see Jesus. The hadiths only trace back to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Then the Hadiths don't offer any evidence as to which religion got it right about Jesus and thus aren't relevant to this discussion.
Quote:1. God knew Jesus better, not the people.
So we're back to why didn't God tell the Christians instead of some guy while he was alone in a cave?
Quote:Not desperate to believe, because I already believe. I would never try to intentionally fool myself into believing as if I'm "desperate" to believe. What's the point of it?
Many believers are unsure of their own faith and know, somewhere deep in their minds, that it's all baloney. That's why they get so angry when their faith is challenged.
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