RE: Why do you not believe in the concept of a God?
June 2, 2021 at 2:24 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2021 at 2:36 pm by johndoe122931.)
(June 2, 2021 at 2:19 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:Good Morning Downbeatplumb,(June 1, 2021 at 9:10 am)johndoe122931 Wrote: I made an earlier post called “Why do you hate God”, and needless to say I was quickly and rightfully corrected as to how I structured the question and the incoherent post that followed. For all that responded I thank you for your positive criticism of it and how I can better word my comments.
Now my intent in all this is that I really want to hear from you all as individuals as to why you do not believe in a God or more accurately the concept of a God. I would like to hear what we as Christians call your “testimony” or story as to why you came to the conclusion that you have.
I know there is a list a mile long as to reasons why people do not believe and that’s great, but I am more interested in hearing from the individual as to why they personally do not. What lead you to become an atheist? Were you a believer before you became an atheist? What happened to cause you to turn away from your faith? What religion or God did you follow before you became an atheist if any at all? When you turned away from God what did your friends and family say or do?
I am interested to hear the impact it had on your life. Was it a positive one or a negative one? Are you still struggling with the outcome of your choice? How does it feel to be free from such ideologies and beliefs?
I know there are multiple questions involved with this, but they all together form the story of your personal choice and I think it to be better framed in this way instead of making multiple threads to get the same answer.
I thank you all for your patience and understanding and please feel free to correct me when necessary, on how I can better understand and communicate more efficiently. Thank you for your time!
Theists make several assumptions.
They assume that everyone has left a religion. I have not. I have not for one second been in a religion or had a faith to leave. I'm British and believe it or not atheism is the default here.
There is also a thing that when theists talk about god they always assume you have a super complete idea of what god is. I don't. I have heard many different very vague descriptions of what a god is supposed to be but they all seem to be either a way of controlling the weak minded, a handy explanation for things primitive societies couldnt be bother to really look into and a collection of vague concepts like god is moral, god is love, god is law.
There is a story Richard Attenborough tells of him dining with a bishop talking about the people of vannatu who worship american airmen in the hopes of getting stuff like chocolate the bishop said "isnt silly what some people believe? " yes it is said Richard, the bishop apparently didn't pick up on his "tone"
Thank you for sharing your story with us much appreciated!
(June 2, 2021 at 1:25 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:(June 2, 2021 at 1:14 pm)johndoe122931 Wrote: Okay.
You think something called 'Zues' is real.
WHat are its properties?
The classical Greeks had a definite idea about what, exactly, Zues was.
How does your version differ, is at all?
Colour me very confused atm.
Not at work.
So, I am trying to answer your questions as best as I can without "preaching" to you so forgive me. Satan is a liar and deceiver. He can make himself appear to be something that he is not. Hence, the Greek's understanding of him. Google Michael Heiser and that might give you a better understanding of what I mean.
Hmmm.
Maybe a different tack.
Might it be correct to phrase it thus?
"Hi! I'm johndoe122931 and I think the supernatural is also real. Not just any supernatural but ALL the supernatural."
Would that be correct?
As for your 'Zuess = Satan'?
Uhm, you do kind of realise their descriptions/job portfolios were very different? Not to mention that Zuess has a lot better 'Pedigree' than some renamed/repurposed diety, right?
Also, Zuess has friends and family etc. Or are you just rebranding all that to fit your idea/category sort of thing? Which brings along a whole differnt level of baggage.
Cheers.
Not at work.
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Yeah, sure, that sounds good I agree with that.
As for the whole Zeus/Satan deal. Again, like I said Satan can portray himself in any way he wants. If he wants to give himself the attributes that he does in what we know as Zeus according to the Greeks then he can. As for his family, I have no issue with that. Genesis 6 covers that issue.