(November 26, 2011 at 3:15 pm)little_monkey Wrote: If you look at the Christian right trying to get creationism/ID to be taught in a science class, or portraying that global warming is a hoax, or getting prayers into class, or their fight against abortions, gay rights, and many other issues, it is no longer a question that theists are keeping their beliefs to themselves, but that they are tryng to impose it to all of society. Perhaps you are indifferent to that, but I'm not. It affects me.
...this affects me, so i oppose it, which is precisely what you quoted. I think it was clear. Also, i lived in a few countries, although not the us, and in none of these countries did i ever have a single person forcing religious ideas on me. If someone believes in God but doesn't force anyone else to, then i don't have a problem with them. Because it's their freedom.
Quote:But they do more than that as I indicated above.
Not the majority. Or even a meaningful minority. So generalizing ALL christians as proselytizing aggressive zealots is just plain wrong. I'm tired of people on each side of EVERY argument spending their time seeing the other side only by their worst stereotypes.
Quote:We all have feelings and prone to be irrational. But to place one's own beliefs on an irrational basis is not going to be very productive.
Yet we all do it. So judging others for doing the same thing that we do is hypocritical.
Quote:Hitler and Stalin were also rational (Godwin's law, you win,). Atheists and Theists can both be rational. However, it is not just a question of being rational, but what is your premise you start from. And the article makes that distinction.
No they were not rational. Racism is irrational, for example. And Stalin was, by many accounts, batshit insane.
Quote:It was one of many things the author quotes as being free from. And why shouldn't he celebrate his freedom from religion?
Because his article implies that this is what religion consists of. Which is a misrepresentation.
