Is purposeless torture moral?

[Cinjin]

It certainly isnt my place to decide or predict whos gonna go to hell and who isnt. I would never ever never ever never tell anybody that they would go to hell.

Perhaps not directly, but that is indeed what you just did is it not? You said that people who are unrepentant burn in hell. The name of this website alone tells you that we are indeed people who do not believe in your god. It's a damnation to hell by proxy. You are stating that you believe we are going to hell even if you do not say those words. It would be like me saying, I believe that people who believe in god are all pedophiles and making this claim AFTER you told everyone you were a Christian. It's an unfair condemnation even though I didn't name you specifically. Don't worry too much. The rules here allow you theists a lot of leeway on the preaching, but you're never going to convince me that you're somehow above condemning people to hell when you just managed to do it in the typical condescending subtle manner that theists do.

@ deciple, Hi good to have you here, hope your journey here is spiritually profitable. Cinjin is correct in saying we have different opinions about hell, I do believe that hell's a real place and it's a place of punishment. Cinjin is wrong as you stated that one of the two of us can't be Christians because we see hell differently, Cinjin is also wrong about me believing that my thoughts on hell are the only ones that are true, I've stated many times that is my opinion. Just so you will understand (and I put it in the open for all to see, because I do not want to be accused of PMing to cause trouble, PMs are not private on this forum, I'm OK with that now that I know it) back to what I was going to say, Cinjin and a few others will try and shade what Christians say to drive a wedge between them. He believes we are as petty as he is, ain't that right Cinjin my friend. Hope to see you in many discussions Disciple again thanks for joining in.

awe yes, I am the great offender. Why don't you put two big logs together, stand them up in your back yard and climb up and nail yourself to them. Such a martyr - taking one for jesus by forcing yourself to hang out with us "petty" non-believers. You know good and damn well that I was referencing the True Christian™ Defense regularly used by all you Christians (especially you GC) and in this case was using it BEFORE you got the chance to throw it out there. It's called sarcasm.

I will give you points for becoming more and more like us GC. I don't know if Jesus would be please with you though ... you don't turn the other cheek the way you use to.

[Disciple]

It certainly isnt my place to decide or predict whos gonna go to hell and who isnt. I would never ever never ever never tell anybody that they would go to hell.

Perhaps not directly, but that is indeed what you just did is it not? You said that people who are unrepentant burn in hell. The name of this website alone tells you that we are indeed people who do not believe in your god. It's a damnation to hell by proxy. You are stating that you believe we are going to hell even if you do not say those words. It would be like me saying, I believe that people who believe in god are all pedophiles and making this claim AFTER you told everyone you were a Christian. It's an unfair condemnation even though I didn't name you specifically. Don't worry too much. The rules here allow you theists a lot of leeway on the preaching, but you're never going to convince me that you're somehow above condemning people to hell when you just managed to do it in the typical condescending subtle manner that theists do.

@ deciple, Hi good to have you here, hope your journey here is spiritually profitable. Cinjin is correct in saying we have different opinions about hell, I do believe that hell's a real place and it's a place of punishment. Cinjin is wrong as you stated that one of the two of us can't be Christians because we see hell differently, Cinjin is also wrong about me believing that my thoughts on hell are the only ones that are true, I've stated many times that is my opinion. Just so you will understand (and I put it in the open for all to see, because I do not want to be accused of PMing to cause trouble, PMs are not private on this forum, I'm OK with that now that I know it) back to what I was going to say, Cinjin and a few others will try and shade what Christians say to drive a wedge between them. He believes we are as petty as he is, ain't that right Cinjin my friend. Hope to see you in many discussions Disciple again thanks for joining in.

awe yes, I am the great offender. Why don't you put two big logs together, stand them up in your back yard and climb up and nail yourself to them. Such a martyr - taking one for jesus by forcing yourself to hang out with us "petty" non-believers. You know good and damn well that I was referencing the True Christian™ Defense regularly used by all you Christians (especially you GC) and in this case was using it BEFORE you got the chance to throw it out there. It's called sarcasm.

I will give you points for becoming more and more like us GC. I don't know if Jesus would be please with you though ... you don't turn the other cheek the way you use to.

Well cinjin I hate to dissapoint you and shatter your stereotype of all christians but i really am above condemning anybody to hell. I dont know how else to say it but I really cant tell you who is or who isnt going there. The part where I stated that unrepentant people are in hell I was answering your question about how I know that the people that go there have made their decision and would have made the same one given thousands of years to think about it. It may have been a miscommunication I didnt mean it like unrepentant people are going to hell because at one time we were all unrepentant. I meant it as the people that are in hell right now as we talk back and forth with each other are still unrepentant. And I get that from the holy scriptures which I subscribe to but dont mind if you dont. And i see your point about how it looked when you put it to me as saying if you would say you believed that all christians were pedophiles after I told you I was christian. It made sense when you put it like that so I figured I would clarify a wee bit. This is a forum for the discussion and debate of Ideas and ways of thinking. We cant have that unless I tell you how I think as well Im not preaching, attacking or especially condemning anybody. hope that clears it up. Peace.

[Godscreated]

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@ deciple, Hi good to have you here, hope your journey here is spiritually profitable. Cinjin is correct in saying we have different opinions about hell, I do believe that hell's a real place and it's a place of punishment. Cinjin is wrong as you stated that one of the two of us can't be Christians because we see hell differently, Cinjin is also wrong about me believing that my thoughts on hell are the only ones that are true, I've stated many times that is my opinion. Just so you will understand (and I put it in the open for all to see, because I do not want to be accused of PMing to cause trouble, PMs are not private on this forum, I'm OK with that now that I know it) back to what I was going to say, Cinjin and a few others will try and shade what Christians say to drive a wedge between them. He believes we are as petty as he is, ain't that right Cinjin my friend. Hope to see you in many discussions Disciple again thanks for joining in.

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awe yes, I am the great offender. Why don't you put two big logs together, stand them up in your back yard and climb up and nail yourself to them. Such a martyr - taking one for jesus by forcing yourself to hang out with us "petty" non-believers. You know good and damn well that I was referencing the True Christian™ Defense regularly used by all you Christians (especially you GC) and in this case was using it BEFORE you got the chance to throw it out there. It's called sarcasm.

I will give you points for becoming more and more like us GC. I don't know if Jesus would be please with you though ... you don't turn the other cheek the way you use to.

Ah martyr, you seem to think I believe I'm someone I'm not, believe me I know who I am and it's not what I want or need to be, but Jesus is working on that. If you had been in church with me today you might see the real me. Yes, I strike back, that is in my nature, I know that I shouldn't but I'm not perfect and never will be. This is one of many reasons I'm so grateful that Christ is my savior. Cinjin it's not like you to paint such a lowly picture of yourself and then you included others. Many on here do not deserve to be place in that, see above bold.

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Because its your fucking book.


I think its horseshit but you are supposed to "believe" in this nonsense.

You could use some glasses, me thinks.