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Christians walk out during criticism of the Bible
#21
RE: Christians walk out during criticism of the Bible
(April 30, 2012 at 2:11 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(April 30, 2012 at 6:29 am)Mosrhun Wrote: I don't see what the big deal is. If a man wants a dick in his ass, let him have a dick in his ass. Who cares?

How do you know he doesnt rather 'give than receive'?Thinking

Probably enjoys a little of both
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#22
RE: Christians walk out during criticism of the Bible
Lol, Mosrhun!

I can't really rag on C Rod too much. He's far more the harmless variety of theist and really if more were like him I'd probably have absolutely zero issues with religion. I SHOULD point out, though, Mr. Rod; if you pick and choose what aspects of the bible to listen to and what not to, does that make the bible fallible, and if so, why bother adhering to it? You do seem to follow the precepts of do unto others as they would have others do unto you. I should point out this is not a Christian-specific moral code; it far predates monotheism in general, in fact, by over a millenium. Just something for you to ruminate over, but even if you continue on your current conclusion, let it be known I appreciate your lack of dogmatic adherence.

As for these people walking out on the criticism, we see this happen quite often. Ever see Religulous? Bill goes to a "truck-stop church" and asks some questions of the Xtians there, and within moments of him asking rather rational questions in a fairly respectful way, one declares he will not stand for this questioning and leaves in a huff.
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#23
RE: Christians walk out during criticism of the Bible
(April 30, 2012 at 2:11 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: How do you know he doesnt rather 'give than receive'?Thinking

Depends on whose ass he gave it to first... mine? It's fine.
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#24
RE: Christians walk out during criticism of the Bible
I believe the 10 commandments are for everyone and that the other commands are just for the Israelites, that's why there was 10 commandments on stone and how many ever other commands, separately.
The "do unto others" i find to be somewhat of common sense, where i think Jesus really shakes up life, is turn the cheek, if they take you tunic, let them have your cloak too, do not worry, love your enemies, and do not judge and etc.These are radically different and if people actually did these, what person could do wrong.
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
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#25
RE: Christians walk out during criticism of the Bible
Epic fail. So, You imagine that a certain portion of gods commands were overarching and in service of this you offer us the celestial etch-a-sketch episode?

Many could do wrong. If you turned the cheek the world would be full of bullies. If you gave the cloak it would be full of users, if you loved your enemies -you would be dead-, If you did not judge then all of the above would be rampant But lets test this idea.

Did your god turn the cheek? No, he did not.

Will he give the cloak? No, he will not, in fact, he rather prefers curses over cloaks.

Does he love his enemies? A strong and resounding no.

Does he withhold judgement? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but that is all he does day in and day out every single day since the first man died...correct?

So, firstly, we have a shitty code of morality that one must apply further modication too, modification not suggested or commaned in your scriptures called common fucking sense. You have to already have a decent sort of moral code before these little bits of drivel can even begin to enrich it (or just as easily degrade it). Secondly we have a "do as I say not as I do" god.

Garbage on both counts. You want to know what the world would be like if everybody signed onboard with christendom? Pick up a history book. Been there, done that.

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#26
RE: Christians walk out during criticism of the Bible
Christians quickly walk out because they can't handle the truth. They choose to live in ignorance and self righteousness. It makes them feel superior and gives them a false sense of security. Stupid fucks!
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#27
RE: Christians walk out during criticism of the Bible
-said the buddhist.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#28
RE: Christians walk out during criticism of the Bible
"what person could do wrong"
I didn't say that all people should do this. They wont but for the one who does he lives a life like you described, and i ask did he do anything wrong.
Jesus turned the cheek
Jesus gave his blood
Jesus died for everyone
Jesus has the right to judge but acknowledges your judgement
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
"You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
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#29
RE: Christians walk out during criticism of the Bible
Jesus and the Abrahamic God are different people? I didnt know that the pendulum had swung so far back in that direction. You want jesus-as god, you get all the fun shit. I know, I know, you like to wash your hands- overruled.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#30
RE: Christians walk out during criticism of the Bible
Now, I'm not averse to harsh or colorful language, nor am I apologizing for anyone who walked out on the guy while he was speaking, but it is possible that some walked out on his speech because they were offended by his language. It didn't bother me in the least, but it does bother others. I think he could have gotten his message across without the language. Anyway, that's my two cents worth. Others might think that is just bullshit. Smile
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