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Dinosaurs and Man
#71
RE: Dinosaurs and Man
(June 3, 2012 at 9:34 pm)Stimbo Wrote: My pleasure, RD. Speaking personally, if someone's trying to sell me something that sounds too good to be true, knowing a bit about them might give me an idea as to why.


Yeah, a few years ago, I had a phone call from a guy I went to school with and had not seen for 30 years. He wanted to offer me a "wonderful business opportunity". Turned out to be Amway, and the wonderful business opportunity was for him.

I realised I had never actually really liked him at school so told him to stick Amway up his bum and piss off,then I hung up.Tiger
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#72
RE: Dinosaurs and Man
Quote:Pangea was pre-flood. There was water under the crust, the crust cracked, and under great pressure, the water shot up like a fountain all over the world. Soon after, the continents were formed.
Pangea is a super continent 300 million years ago. Sections broke off which became other continents. The process took millions of years and it is the result of continental drift. Continents today are still moving, a few centre meters per day.

You say water shot up like a fountain all over the world? That's cool, but what suggests that happened? In other words..... you got evidence?



Quote:Noah's Ark had the greatest proportions for any ship built in history, 30:5:3. It very much did float.
Claimed it floated, however the laws of physics disagrees. Ships smaller (built of wood) than the ark had structural failer and were built of top material and by professional ship builders. The ark is poorly designed and cannot float. Try it, build it with the same materials, same design and see if it floats. Also try and put over 7 million different species of animal on it.
Also the ark never existed and even if it did there are many ships greater than the ark today, fuck even a few centuries ago.



Quote:Inbreeding isn't guaranteed death and disease.
Not guaranteed death for the animal (though likely), but is guaranteed extinction for the species.
Inbreeding causes genetic disorders. It's a scientific fact. The problem with just two is that they'd be inbreeding several times over. Just the once is bad enough. Bothers will be mating with sisters many times over. In nature, any disorder that a species has that will reduce their ability to survive and reproduce is doomed to extinction.


Quote:There was plenty of room for all species. Except for marine life. Salt water creatures can live in diluted conditions for quite some time. Insects and the like did not have to be on board. They were saved by other means. But doesn't the Bible say everything was killed?
The bible hasn't a fucking clue on animals. Some animals require certain climates to survive (another scientific fact) many animals require the right food (another fact). There's no way even today that we could fit over 7 million species of animal on a single ship, plus all the supplies. Besides, many salt water animals cannot survive such changes to their environment.

Quote:Oh ye of little faith. Any more critiques?
You are very uneducated, highly religious and so misguided and extremely unrealistic.
Those who wrote the bible were ignorant about the world around them.

I think, aleialoura covered all that quite nicely.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#73
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"What's a cubit?"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bputeFGXEjA


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#74
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"The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to interpret, they mainly make models. By a model is meant a mathematical construct which, with the addition of certain verbal interpretations, describes observed phenomena. The justification of such a mathematical construct is solely and precisely that it is expected to work."

—John von Neumann


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#75
RE: Dinosaurs and Man
(June 3, 2012 at 10:01 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(June 3, 2012 at 6:43 am)Panglossian Wrote: "Our science"? There is only one scientific method, you cretin, and all that which creationists hope to pass off as "science" is totally devoid of any kind of legitimate factual evidence. Scientists do not care what it says in the bible, they only wish to ascertain a more accurate estimation of truth. It is coincidence that it usually contradicts your holy book, nothing more. There's no global conspiracy, no deity laying false paths and - infact - almost 70% of scientists believe in a god, so how could they possibly wish to exploit religion? "Our science", honestly! How could you possibly be that ignorant?

I think you know I wasn't talking about two different sciences. I've tried to present science here before, yet no one would look at it, actually I presented it twice, and the second time resulted in the same insults to very intelligent people. So maybe now you see what I mean about "your science".

Ok, even though you just ignored almost everything I said...
what was this scientific evidence you posted before? Enlighten me.
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#76
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Focus on his use of the prepositional phrases:

" ... I presented it twice, and the second time resulted in the same insults to very intelligent people ..."
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#77
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Quote:Christianity does not require people to disregard their reason, or to be credulous

1. Postulates an invisible brain with no brain, no neurons and no material with a magic wand.

2. A book that claims the earth was made in 6 days. Treats the sun and moon as separate sources of light. Has a adult woman magically pop out of a man's rib. Talking bushes and talking donkies. Babies made of godsperm. Zombie gods surviving rigor mortis.

No, and you don't have to suspend reason or be credulous to believe in Santa either.
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#78
RE: Dinosaurs and Man
Quote:Pangea is a super continent 300 million years ago. Sections broke off which became other continents. The process took millions of years and it is the result of continental drift. Continents today are still moving, a few centre meters per day.

You say water shot up like a fountain all over the world? That's cool, but what suggests that happened? In other words..... you got evidence?

You're going to put them into full anti-learning mode, Ace.

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#79
RE: Dinosaurs and Man
(June 4, 2012 at 7:55 am)apophenia Wrote:


"What's a cubit?"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bputeFGXEjA



Very funny, I love Bill Cosby, going to the dentist may be my favorite.

(June 4, 2012 at 10:00 am)Brian37 Wrote:
Quote:Christianity does not require people to disregard their reason, or to be credulous

A book that claims the earth was made in 6 days. Treats the sun and moon as separate sources of light.

If during the creation the earth was close to a black hole then scientificly it would work. Technically there is one source, realisticly they are two different sources, the light reflected by the moon would forever be lost to the earth if the moon did not reflect the light.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#80
RE: Dinosaurs and Man
(June 3, 2012 at 10:24 pm)ScienceLovesGod Wrote: "For animals around the planet to migrate to the ark..."

Pangea was pre-flood. There was water under the crust, the crust cracked, and under great pressure, the water shot up like a fountain all over the world. Soon after, the continents were formed.

Okay, hotshot. Many animals have a specialized diet. Please tell me where Noah obtained the eucalyptus leaves he would need to feed the koala bears. And, of course, these must be FRESH eucalyptus leaves. Dried out leaves wouldn't do. Did he have a eucalyptus tree on the ark? If so, where did he get it? Especially since eucalyptus trees are only found in Australia...
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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