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Atheists and suicide
#11
RE: Atheists and suicide
(June 9, 2012 at 1:54 pm)StatCrux Wrote: I've sometimes wondered if suicide rates are higher amongst atheists, once ultimate meaning in life is removed suicide can be rationalized.

I've entertained the idea for a while that the more intelligent the person is the more prone they are to depression. I have no idea how this idea tracks reality (if at all). Since higher intelligence is correlated with atheism, it could be that intelligence is causing both depression and atheism. Though again, I haven't any idea whether that's actually the case or not and I have yet to read the study you've linked to. I'll give it a look and I might post again.
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#12
RE: Atheists and suicide
(June 9, 2012 at 3:32 pm)Tempus Wrote:
(June 9, 2012 at 1:54 pm)StatCrux Wrote: I've sometimes wondered if suicide rates are higher amongst atheists, once ultimate meaning in life is removed suicide can be rationalized.

I've entertained the idea for a while that the more intelligent the person is the more prone they are to depression. I have no idea how this idea tracks reality (if at all). Since higher intelligence is correlated with atheism, it could be that intelligence is causing both depression and atheism. Though again, I haven't any idea whether that's actually the case or not and I have yet to read the study you've linked to. I'll give it a look and I might post again.

It could have something to do with that fact that when you understand reality and uncover the truth about it, you notice how cold and hard it is. The truth often is cold and hard and lies tend to be reassuring, pleasant, desirable ect,ect.
That's just my thought on the matter.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#13
RE: Atheists and suicide
(June 9, 2012 at 2:10 pm)Faith No More Wrote: I think it also has something to do no inherent meaning in an atheist's life. An atheist has to struggle with the question, 'does my life have a meaning?' while the theist get's to jumpn right to 'what is the meaning of my life, as dictated by god?'

I am not sure about this condlstruct of "inherent meaning". It seems to me to be another theist mental trap. I find plenty of what could be termed as mraning in my life. Life is what one makes of it.

I enjoy living, and I would never consider suicide as a "way out" of hard times.

I am not even sure about it for myself in the context of euthanasia. I like being alive too much ...
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#14
RE: Atheists and suicide
It's more logical for a Christian to commit suicide,considering they expect that there's a blissful afterlife.
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#15
RE: Atheists and suicide
I would assume that it would actually be less, the thought of just not existing can be more scary than the thought of hell.
Atheism is a non-prophet organisation. - A dusty old book that I found that must be completely true because someone wrote it down.
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RE: Atheists and suicide
(June 9, 2012 at 4:16 pm)znk666 Wrote: It's more logical for a Christian to commit suicide,considering they expect that there's a blissful afterlife.

Isn't suicide a sin?
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RE: Atheists and suicide
(June 9, 2012 at 4:30 pm)Adjusted Sanity Wrote:
(June 9, 2012 at 4:16 pm)znk666 Wrote: It's more logical for a Christian to commit suicide,considering they expect that there's a blissful afterlife.

Isn't suicide a sin?

Yeah, it is, but as you bleed to death from your wrists or as you plummet to the ground you could ask for forgiveness from the big JC. Tongue
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#18
RE: Atheists and suicide
(June 9, 2012 at 4:30 pm)Adjusted Sanity Wrote:
(June 9, 2012 at 4:16 pm)znk666 Wrote: It's more logical for a Christian to commit suicide,considering they expect that there's a blissful afterlife.

Isn't suicide a sin?

It is apparently. If I'm not mistaken, if you commit suicide, you forfeit heaven.

However there is a way around it -

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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#19
RE: Atheists and suicide
I had more suicidal tendencies when I at my theistic peak than I do today, almost a year after my deconversion. Not that I'm saying if I am typical or atypical, just sharing some personal experience.
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#20
RE: Atheists and suicide
(June 9, 2012 at 4:30 pm)Adjusted Sanity Wrote:
(June 9, 2012 at 4:16 pm)znk666 Wrote: It's more logical for a Christian to commit suicide,considering they expect that there's a blissful afterlife.

Isn't suicide a sin?

In some, rather, most denominations of xtianity, suicide is a sin that will provide you a one-way ticket to hell. The religions and denominations that don't consider it a sin generally look down on the practice as the "ending of a life ordained by God as God's child", or something like the destruction of "God's temple".
I don't see religious people killing themselves as much as the nonreligious, but, as a wise man was once paraphrased, that "isn't any more to to the point than the fact that the intoxicated are more happy than the sober".
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
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