Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?

[ThomM]

Neither a god nor a satan exist beyond that of fairy tales - no one has ever provided any Testable and verifiable PROOF of the existence of either.

THEREFORE

THe greatest evil is Religion

[Forsaken]

Probably allah, as this imaginary bastard is indirectly responsible for more "documented" deaths than any other entity in recorded history.

[Erinome]

I think the Satan character is the more moral of the two. He's certainly the most interesting.

[Cyberman]

I never got the whole "God/Satan" thing, other than the obvious means of social and political control anyway. After all, it's far easier to convince one group of humans to killl another group of humans if you can dehumanise that rival group (hence terms like heathens, godless, sinners, gooks, whatever's going to turn that other person into a target).

But still, let's take a look at it. What does the Devil do anyway? Tempt humans? To do the things that humans enjoy doing? There was a whole routine on Mock the Week in which Frankie Boyle talked about how Primary School (kindergarten) teachers merely have to get the kids to make pictures out of pasta and glitter: "That's what they'd do if you weren't even in the room!"

And what's it all for? We're told, and I've gone into all this before, that the end of the story is already known and was in fact written out right at the beginning. So we all know, Devil included, how the movie ends. So why bother? All this praying for peace on Earth and goodwill to all Men is just as much platitudinous verbal diarrhoea as "have a nice day" or "night-night, don't let the bed-bugs bite!"

As a means of controlling a population that vastly outnumbers the ruling élite, the carrot and stick approach is second to none. The fact that people willingly shackle themselves in a desperate need for something to cling onto (because life is big and scary) is pathetic and, to me, farcical. In the internet age and beyond, hopefully we can finally outgrow the need for such security blankets.

I apologise for mangling my metaphors like so many cats and dogs coming home to roost.

[ElijahDrew]

If the snake in the garden of Eden is also Satan and Lucifer, then the most evil between Yahweh and Satan is Yahweh. Lucifer gave humans knowledge according to the myth. So, that's pretty nice of him.

[Cyberman]

Well, knowledge of good and evil to be more precise, which in the story means "hey - I think we're naked!"

Then again, gods have always been jealous of their secrets; look what happened to Prometheus just for giving us the secret of fire.

[GodlessGirl]

Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?

Many blame Satan for the evils of this world even as his power to deceive all of us comes from God.

As the creator of Satan, many think that God deserves the blame as he knew what Satan would be because God knows everything in advance.

What is the greatest evil you can think of and who do you think is to blame for it?

Who is the greatest sinner, Satan or God?

I lean toward God as scriptures name him the Alpha and Omega which to me means the best and the worse. Also, scriptures have God saying not to place any other above him and I would be going against this by placing Satan above him in the category of the most evil. I do not want to break the first commandment.

Do you dare by putting Satan above God?

Regards
DL

The award for most evil goes to God because he allows all of Satan's evil, and he adds his own.

[Creed of Heresy]

...Just sayin', bro.

[Greatest I am]

The greatest evil goes to the priests, reverends, imams, and rabbis.

+ 1

Regards
DL

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festive1 Wrote:
I'm in the Hitchens' camp on this one. (Rough paraphrasing...) "There will always be evil people who do evil things, but how do you get good people to do evil things? Religion."

I learn.

I did not think he coined that. Good for him.

Regards
DL

Apologies, I dont' know how to quote, other than to cut and paste...
But anyhoo... I believe it was Hitchens, at least I've seen debates where he's said this, but he may have adopted it from elsewhere. If you think this is the case, what is this other source? I'm always trying to find new stuff to read/learn!

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/religion...10565.html

Regards
DL

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Neither a god nor a satan exist beyond that of fairy tales - no one has ever provided any Testable and verifiable PROOF of the existence of either.

THEREFORE

THe greatest evil is Religion

I would say the people in it but we are on the same page.

Regards
DL

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I think the Satan character is the more moral of the two. He's certainly the most interesting.

And lovable as compared to God.

Regards
DL

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Thanks to all.

I am not surprised that most feel that God deserves the evil award.

Good that we all recognise a prick as a prick.

Regards
DL

[kılıç_mehmet]

When I think of God, I think not of good or evil. A purely neutral image comes to my mind. When I think of Satan, another purely neutral image comes to my mind.
I believe beings that are supposed to be beyond our understanding should not be judged by our meagre understanding of two opposing moral poles.