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RE: Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?
August 29, 2012 at 1:00 am
Interesting question. According to the Bible, the only people hurt or killed by Satan were those he hurt or killed with God's direct permission in the book of Job.
Meanwhile, God makes a regular habit of demanding his people kill this guy, that guy, that nation, anyone who does something I don't like and that's not even to mention a world wide apocalypse with Noah's ark.
So I'm going to say God has killed a whole fuck of a lot more people than God. Yet to believers, there is only one evil: disagreement with God. Thing is, if your God is evil, is it really wrong to disagree with it?
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RE: Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?
August 29, 2012 at 1:16 am
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(August 29, 2012 at 1:00 am)TaraJo Wrote: Meanwhile, God makes a regular habit of demanding his people kill this guy, that guy, that nation, anyone who does something I don't like and that's not even to mention a world wide apocalypse with Noah's ark.
Still, it could be worse. Instead of ol' Yahweh, we could have this god:
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Nuggan is one of the more powerful among the newer gods of the Discworld. He is the state god of Borogravia, but also in charge of paperclips, correct things in the right place in small desk stationery sets, and unnecessary paperwork.
He is very serious about setting prohibitions, which his followers call Abominations. Nuggan thinks that a god ought to prohibit things that people truly want, so that the prohibition has real effect on people's lives. So, Nuggan sets the rules that his people shall eat neither chocolate nor garlic. This makes Borogravian citizens rather angry when finally they taste garlic and/or chocolate and find how tasty it is.
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Nuggan sets these terrible prohibitions for his worshippers, but doesn't tell them if there are any good things that they could and should do ("love thy neighbours" or such), whether they are doing a good job of living their lives. As a result, the Borogravian people are constantly worried that they are breaking some prohibitions. People have a terrible feeling that they will all end in eternal damnation.
Due to complicated mechanisms in belief, it seems to the Nugganites that Nuggan sets a new Abomination every few days. And so therefore he does. The Book of Nuggan (holy text of the Nugganites) is published in a large ring-binder, so that new Abominations can be appended as they are set forth by Nuggan. The Nugganites call it a living testament, a holy book that truly grows.
It has now been proven that Nuggan is effectively insane. By the end of Monstrous Regiment, he has declared babies and the color blue to be Abominations.
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Known Abominations
* Chocolate
* Garlic
* Mushrooms
* The colour blue
* Babies
* Crop rotation
* Girls in men's clothing (whether the other way round is an Abomination, too, remains unknown)
* Girls knowing how to write
* Pictures of living things
* Cats
* Dwarfs
* Barking dogs
* Oysters
* Shirts with six buttons
* Cheese
* Messages in the sky (Clacks and carrier pigeons) as prayers may bump into them
* Rocks
* Ears
* Accordion players
* Theatres and similar
* The smell of beets
Actually, now I come to think of it, maybe we have got this god? It would certainly explain a hell of a lot of the OT...
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RE: Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?
August 29, 2012 at 8:50 am
(August 29, 2012 at 1:16 am)Stimbo Wrote: Actually, now I come to think of it, maybe we have got this god? It would certainly explain a hell of a lot of the OT...
Yep, totally him. The writer of the Bible should totally sue for copyright infringement.
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RE: Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?
August 31, 2012 at 11:59 am
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(August 27, 2012 at 6:19 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: When I think of God, I think not of good or evil. A purely neutral image comes to my mind. When I think of Satan, another purely neutral image comes to my mind.
I believe beings that are supposed to be beyond our understanding should not be judged by our meagre understanding of two opposing moral poles.
You cannot understand good and evil?
Strange. Most from about 8 years old on, can.
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(August 29, 2012 at 1:00 am)TaraJo Wrote: Interesting question. According to the Bible, the only people hurt or killed by Satan were those he hurt or killed with God's direct permission in the book of Job.
Meanwhile, God makes a regular habit of demanding his people kill this guy, that guy, that nation, anyone who does something I don't like and that's not even to mention a world wide apocalypse with Noah's ark.
So I'm going to say God has killed a whole fuck of a lot more people than God. Yet to believers, there is only one evil: disagreement with God. Thing is, if your God is evil, is it really wrong to disagree with it?
A theist would have to judge God to answer you. They will not yet somehow have judged God good.
Not judged but judged nevertheless. Christians are weird and constantly do what they say we are not to do. Judge God.
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