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RE: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per Bible.
September 8, 2012 at 7:22 pm
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(September 5, 2012 at 8:04 am)Rhythm Wrote: @Cat. Then you wouldn't have christianity, you'd have teachings from a book. Amusingly, this is precisely what the situation seems to be at present, but for some strange reason the christ bit is important (not to me mind you, but to christians themselves). "Hallmark-on-Rice Paper" doesn't have the ring that "Christianity" does, I'll give you that.
But that's like saying there are no "Trekies" because Star Trek isn't real.
(September 5, 2012 at 7:33 pm)jonb Wrote: (September 4, 2012 at 5:42 pm)JohnDG Wrote: If we were all created in gods image
Actually after years of bablical research I have been able to come up with the exact image of god
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Adam was made in gods image and eve was the rib closest to his heart.
Now depute this literal truth.
Which "literal" truth? The one that in Hebrew means an angular organ and not a rib?
(September 4, 2012 at 11:15 pm)TaraJo Wrote: (September 4, 2012 at 7:06 pm)catfish Wrote: If anyone tells you what you "must" believe, ignore them, including atheists...
I generally question everything and accept the answers that make the most sense to me. So far, the Bible hasn't had many of those answers; science, atheists and observation have.
I don't think the bible is supposed to give you those types of answers.
(September 4, 2012 at 11:15 pm)TaraJo Wrote: (September 4, 2012 at 4:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No, not really. Specifically if there was no "christ", agreed?
Generally, yes, Christianity can have good ideas or thoughts on things, regardless of what the Bible says. However, for the context that the line was used, no, it isn't. The basis of what was typed said that the Jesus myth is real because the Bible says it is and the Bible is always right. If we can find a place where the Bible is wrong (and it's not hard to find such a place), you've destroyed the idea that the Bible is always right. I suppose you can still be a believer even if the Bible isn't perfect, but you lose that specific defense of your faith.
Where does the idea that the bible is always right come from? I have never had a Cristian or a non prove to me that the bible ever claims to be 100% correct...
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RE: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per Bible.
September 9, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Therefore the Bible is not true.
Therefore Christianity is not true.
As for proof of "There exists disbelievers that are good and love the light". I know my family are good but disbelieve in Christianity for reasons unrelated to evil and hating the light of God or loving the darkness. I'm sure many people know people that are disbelievers in Christianity but are good people.
People are NOT good because of the spook they believe in - they are that way because of what they were taught by their parents and teachers and how they were taught.
And because they were taught how to THINK - as well - then being an atheist is simply the logical result.
For those who claim otherwise - tell them to READ THE BIBLE from the very first page - remembering that if they only believe in one god - then the god of the old testament MUST be the god of the NEW TESTAMENT as well.
ANd then explain that it was the bible that convinced you against religion
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RE: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per Bible.
September 9, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Quote:Where does the idea that the bible is always right come from?
It comes from idiot xtians.
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RE: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per Bible.
September 10, 2012 at 12:15 am
(September 9, 2012 at 10:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Where does the idea that the bible is always right come from?
It comes from idiot xtians.
I have never encountered another sort, have you any evidence of xtians that are fully functioning?
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RE: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per Bible.
September 10, 2012 at 1:28 am
Well, not fully functioning but there are plenty that don't treat this bible shit literally.
Let's face it, in order to believe ANY of the xtian bullshit story your brain has to be misfiring on a couple of cylinders.
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RE: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per Bible.
September 10, 2012 at 1:55 am
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Quote:remembering that if they only believe in one god - then the god of the old testament MUST be the god of the NEW TESTAMENT as well.
And?
YHWH did not start out as THE one god,but simply one in the Canaanite pantheon, with a wife,Asheroth.
Not the Torah,the New Testament or any other sacred book 'caused' my atheism. Nor was it any moral dilemma,such as evil/suffering. That the Abrahamic God is a complete cunt proves/disproves exactly nothing.
I think drawing in-principle theological conclusions from any mythology begins with unsupported assumptions about a creator god,and jumps right into an argument from incredulity.
My position is simple : I reject the notion that God can be argued into or out of existence; I demand proof. I am an atheist (one who does not believe in ANY gods) due to the lack of any credible evidence for the existence of any god(s) in recorded history,as far as I am aware...
Although yanking theist chains can be fun,I have no need to discredit, debunk or disprove any of their claims. It is 100% up to THEM to prove their case.
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RE: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per Bible.
September 10, 2012 at 7:55 am
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I fund it extremely funny that....
For a "mono theistic" religion that the Abrahamic religions have a hierarchy of lower deities; for example: Satan, his 'minions'. YHWH and his 'angels' ad nauseum.
No better than the "Pagan" religions they were "supposedly" were to have enlightened.
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RE: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per Bible.
September 10, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Not forgetting all those saints. As you say, rather interesting definition of monotheism, when you get right down to it.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per Bible.
September 11, 2012 at 1:34 am
And the sacred 'mounts' (as in geological formations), caves, shrouds, bits of wood and wells/fountains.
Amazing really 
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RE: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per Bible.
September 15, 2012 at 12:10 am
(September 9, 2012 at 10:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Where does the idea that the bible is always right come from?
It comes from idiot xtians.
Here's the full quote...
"Where does the idea that the bible is always right come from? I have never had a Cristian or a non prove to me that the bible ever claims to be 100% correct... "
Can you show me or not???
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