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Maybe I never was a Christian?
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RE: Maybe I never was a Christian?
(September 14, 2012 at 3:24 am)Dumac Dwarfking Wrote:
(September 14, 2012 at 3:22 am)Polaris Wrote: Wouldn't that be like saying that you swam in the ocean later to say that you don't believe oceans exist?

I desperately wanted it to be true. I convinced myself that it was real. I was standing in the desert pretending I was in the ocean.

So you only thought you could speak in tongues (?) because otherwise it would just be some nut speaking in gibberish to himself.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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#12
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian?
(September 14, 2012 at 2:24 am)Dumac Dwarfking Wrote: I guess ignorance isn't reserved for the religious...

No it's not. It could just be your personality Smile
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#13
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian?
(September 14, 2012 at 3:26 am)Polaris Wrote:
(September 14, 2012 at 3:24 am)Dumac Dwarfking Wrote: I desperately wanted it to be true. I convinced myself that it was real. I was standing in the desert pretending I was in the ocean.

So you only thought you could speak in tongues (?) because otherwise it would just be some nut speaking in gibberish to himself.

I was just speaking gibberish to myself. The pastor told me to let the spirit fill me and just let the spirit flow from my tongue. I made up words and repeated them. I thought up the words, I new I did, but I thought God would find his way through the gibberish. I know how convincing blind belief of something can be, convincing doesn't make it true. When people get goosebumps during prayer, while that melodic music played in the background, we were told that was holy spirit washing over us. I also got goosebumps at the end of the movie, Gladiator, was that also the holy spirit?
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RE: Maybe I never was a Christian?
(September 14, 2012 at 3:32 am)Dumac Dwarfking Wrote:
(September 14, 2012 at 3:26 am)Polaris Wrote: So you only thought you could speak in tongues (?) because otherwise it would just be some nut speaking in gibberish to himself.

I was just speaking gibberish to myself. The pastor told me to let the spirit fill me and just let the spirit flow from my tongue. I made up words and repeated them. I thought up the words, I new I did, but I thought God would find his way through the gibberish. I know how convincing blind belief of something can be, convincing doesn't make it true. When people get goosebumps during prayer, while that melodic music played in the background, we were told that was holy spirit washing over us. I also got goosebumps at the end of the movie, Gladiator, was that also the holy spirit?

See with tongues, you don't have control about what you are uttering.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Maybe I never was a Christian?
(September 14, 2012 at 3:36 am)Polaris Wrote:
(September 14, 2012 at 3:32 am)Dumac Dwarfking Wrote: I was just speaking gibberish to myself. The pastor told me to let the spirit fill me and just let the spirit flow from my tongue. I made up words and repeated them. I thought up the words, I new I did, but I thought God would find his way through the gibberish. I know how convincing blind belief of something can be, convincing doesn't make it true. When people get goosebumps during prayer, while that melodic music played in the background, we were told that was holy spirit washing over us. I also got goosebumps at the end of the movie, Gladiator, was that also the holy spirit?

See with tongues, you don't have control about what you are uttering.

And we return to my original point. Perhaps I was never really a Christian at all.

Mumbling nonsensically is a trait regularly attributed to the insane.
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#16
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian?
You should come to the pentacostal church near my house, they all speak in tounges there. Funny thing is when 1 person does it everyone does it, and some claim the words come truer from their mouth than others. I think they just want to show each other up.
Live every day as if already dead, that way you're not disappointed when you are. Big Grin
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#17
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian?
I'd like to know why God would choose to speak through people in a language that they not only don't understand, but has no structure or attributes to qualify it a language at all. Not the most convincing way to argue with us English speaking folk.
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#18
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian?
And you should all come to the pub near my house. They speak dubble tongue in there and have massive fights over it.
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#19
RE: Maybe I never was a Christian?
LOL, the gibberer is always in control of their gibberish Pol.
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RE: Maybe I never was a Christian?
(September 14, 2012 at 3:50 am)Dumac Dwarfking Wrote: I'd like to know why God would choose to speak through people in a language that they not only don't understand, but has no structure or attributes to qualify it a language at all. Not the most convincing way to argue with us English speaking folk.

Many foreign languages appear to have no structure to Westerners, but they are still legitimate languages nonetheless.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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