Men and Women Can't Be "Just Friends"

[Tino]

I used to work at a high end shoe store in DC's DuPont area (think little San Francisco of DC), and I was the designated trans salesperson. Seriously, I'd be eating or on break and one of the guys would come in the back and tell me that there was a transexual looking for women's shoes and ask me to go help them.

Ever sneak a peek when you were down at knee level slipping their shoes on?

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You'd think there would be a alot of common ground between straight men and MtoF trans. Both are enamored with the female body, at the very least...lol.

Perhaps this is TMI but since you asked, IMO, strap-on porn is hot, MtoF tranny porn is not. Don't know why. Now if by common ground you mean a lot of topics of mutual interest, I've only had a lengthy conversation with one MtoF transexual (that I know of), a senior government official, and I didn't notice anything unusual with regard to common ground.

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Maybe my gay shows too strongly. But then I have few strictly straight women as friends: what could it mean?!

It means you're the man in those relationships.

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I wonder what would be the metrics of this if we threw at least one gay party into the mix; I am on close terms with one of my former female teachers, and she's a lesbian.

I think it's more of the same. You're sexually attracted to her, correct?

[festive1]

I used to work at a high end shoe store in DC's DuPont area (think little San Francisco of DC), and I was the designated trans salesperson. Seriously, I'd be eating or on break and one of the guys would come in the back and tell me that there was a transexual looking for women's shoes and ask me to go help them.

Ever sneak a peek when you were down at knee level slipping their shoes on?

Nope.
The transexual I was most uncomfortable with was actually a FtoM, with a glued on mustache. He was very unhappy that we didn't carry men's shoes in a ladies size 7. I was more uncomfortable with his attitude than what he was wearing. We didn't sell kids' shoes, so I suggested he check out the Nordstrom's boys department to find what he was looking for. Anytime you work with the public, you're in for some interesting encounters.

[thesummerqueen]

Why does sexual attraction preclude friendship?

I'm very good friends with an Irish guy who I'd bang out of existence (we've both just decided never to be alone in the same room together), but we both have significant others and it doesn't seem to be distracting us from being supportive of each other in emotional and "friend" ways - you know, cracking jokes, helping each other on projects, helping each other through relationship troubles, blah de blah. I've had friends I've nailed as well that I'm still friends with.

I'm a woman. I like men. A select few of them fill certain parts of my heart that others don't. This doesn't mean we can't still support each other.

Is there some magical forcefield that prevents you from being friends ever again once penis has entered vagina?

I don't get along with most women, or at least don't form strong attachments to them. I'm too blunt, opinionated, and sarcastic for a lot of them to handle. But it seems to work fine with most of the men I know. (I've met a few exceptions to the rule on both sides)

For five years I didn't have a boyfriend - just lovers. I still talk to pretty much all of them - some more than others, but you know - life gets busy.

[Violet]

Oh man, when did I lose my hetero card Lilly?
(lol, are you cheating on me with some other friend those few hours of the day we aren't tied at the digital hip? That's grounds for boiled bunny reprisal you know...)

That's just the thing... I don't interact with straight men... but I excessively interact with a straight man

(Not yet, but give this girl time. Or a millionaire sugar daddy... mmmn.)

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You'd think there would be a alot of common ground between straight men and MtoF trans. Both are enamored with the female body, at the very least...lol.

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I think it has to do with their confusion of being attracted to transexuals, but not liking the fact that they are attracted to someone who was born with male parts. I think the whole thing is just fucked up. We are attracted to who we are attracted to, we love who we love, what should it matter what someone was born as? It's the person that matters, not the exterior.

Granted... that exterior is plenty often smexier than the exterior of the cis. Cut the penis away, and have a good day

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+1. Sort of. I couldn't seem to befriend much of anyone 'before,' so it's a little hard to tell.

With the exception of sexy men in Alaskan airports flirting up a gal randomly, I haven't much dealt with the seductive power of a guy finding me attractive enough to fuck.

Boy do I miss it...

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It means you're the man in those relationships.

Yes, the submissively pliant bottom desperately clutching the bedposts under the torrent of pleasure from being pounded into is totally the man in the relationship.

Like... totally.

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IMO, strap-on porn is hot, MtoF tranny porn is not. Don't know why

Ladycock is too realistic for your taste.

[Rev. Rye]

I wonder what would be the metrics of this if we threw at least one gay party into the mix; I am on close terms with one of my former female teachers, and she's a lesbian.

I think it's more of the same. You're sexually attracted to her, correct?

Well, for a forty-something nebbishy lesbian, she is attractive, but I probably wouldn't want to fuck her; that would just get too fucked up.

[Minimalist]

My best friend is female. She's also a xtian. I'd never lay a hand on her.

(We don't talk about religion much, though.)

[Spectrum]

My thoughts exactly:



No, but honestly, if there is any sexual tension at all, I just proceed to touch my female friend wherever I wish. All they usually do is say, "omg stop it lol".

[KichigaiNeko]

Hmmm.. there is just one who I could say is "just a friend"

Funny ...his mobile called mine and i went into "how can I help" mode! I understood that his wife was ill at the time and perhaps he just needed an ear to rant at?

Can't really explain it but I would count him as a "just a friend"

[thesummerqueen]

The whole OP predicated on men finding at least some of their friends sexually attractive, and thinking that their friends must also reciprocate, without saying whether those men were capable of also having emotions and thoughts.

[popeyespappy]

Women can't be friends with men.
Women can't be friends with women.
Therefore women can't have friends.