All Hail the Second Amendment

[KUSA]

He doesn't care about facts. Only drama.

[Rampant.A.I.]

The only things guns are good for are...

• Taking life.
  
• Wielding a false sense of control.
  
• Causing terror.
  
• Increasing war and violence.
  
• Making cash for gun companies and special interest groups.
  
• Destroying the pride of humanity.
  

But I digress...

That's a pretty Guns Aren't Necessary in the Vegan Coffeeshop in the City I Never Leave so Nobody Else Should Have Them approach.

* Target practice
* Hunting for subsistence
* Defense against predators
* For teaching responsibility

(Then again, I'm biased having shot compound, recurve bows and guns since I was 9 or 10)

[ManMachine]

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) - A 74-year-old Maine man was charged in the shooting deaths of two tenants inside an apartment he rented out at his home, possibly over a dispute about where they parked their cars during a snowstorm, state police said Sunday.

http://www.wxow.com/story/20468960/maine...ge-tenants

Anyone who claims guns are good for hunting, self-defence, etc. is just displaying a lack of imagination.

Man stabbed with ceramic squirrel

MM

[Brian37]

The only things guns are good for are...

• Taking life.
  
• Wielding a false sense of control.
  
• Causing terror.
  
• Increasing war and violence.
  
• Making cash for gun companies and special interest groups.
  
• Destroying the pride of humanity.
  

But I digress...

That's a pretty Guns Aren't Necessary in the Vegan Coffeeshop in the City I Never Leave so Nobody Else Should Have Them approach.

* Target practice
* Hunting for subsistence
* Defense against predators
* For teaching responsibility

(Then again, I'm biased having shot compound, recurve bows and guns since I was 9 or 10)

So? What does your list have to do with a flooded market created by assholes who don't care about how many flood our society? If we had 31,000 people dying from West Nile virus every year we would damned sure work to reduce it.

In a perfect utopia your list would not bother me. But the fact is 300 million guns, both legal and illegal, ARE causing problems because they are made like candy and handed out like candy. Guns are not candy but the manufactures insist on marketing them like candy.

America is not at a point in history where "lets make more" and "leave it as it is" is pragmatic. If there were not 31,000 gun deaths per year we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Your rights are NOT the issue. Any big business CEO, not just gun manufacture's, but any big business CEO will tell you their job is to keep and or expand the market. Now, if they keep making them at the rate they do it will get to 500 million, then a billion. Do you really think we need all of that floating around? And do you think more guns will cause less gun death?

If we lived in a Utopia I would not care at all, but in the real world our amount of gun death, with both legally and illegally purchased guns is unacceptable to me.

[Chas]

So? What does your list have to do with a flooded market created by assholes who don't care about how many flood our society? If we had 31,000 people dying from West Nile virus every year we would damned sure work to reduce it.

In a perfect utopia your list would not bother me. But the fact is 300 million guns, both legal and illegal, ARE causing problems because they are made like candy and handed out like candy. Guns are not candy but the manufactures insist on marketing them like candy.

America is not at a point in history where "lets make more" and "leave it as it is" is pragmatic. If there were not 31,000 gun deaths per year we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Your rights are NOT the issue. Any big business CEO, not just gun manufacture's, but any big business CEO will tell you their job is to keep and or expand the market. Now, if they keep making them at the rate they do it will get to 500 million, then a billion. Do you really think we need all of that floating around? And do you think more guns will cause less gun death?

If we lived in a Utopia I would not care at all, but in the real world our amount of gun death, with both legally and illegally purchased guns is unacceptable to me.

Outrage noted.

Do you have some suggestions for practical, workable ways to improve things?

[Minimalist]

While waiting for practical and workable improvements lets see the latest listing of 'law-abiding and responsible gun-owners' who sent their freedom missiles flying into themselves or others.

It's a long list.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/17...unFAIL-LXV

Another week heavy on the self-shootings. We have 40 total listings, and 21 of them involve people accidentally shooting themselves.

Seven of our listings involved law enforcement officers, active duty military, or security guards. Their seven accidents wounded three and killed two, including the astonishing death of a Marine guard posted at the entrance to Camp Lejeune, NC, accidentally shot by the other guard with whom he was standing duty.

[Chas]

While waiting for practical and workable improvements lets see the latest listing of 'law-abiding and responsible gun-owners' who sent their freedom missiles flying into themselves or others.

It's a long list.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/17...unFAIL-LXV

Another week heavy on the self-shootings. We have 40 total listings, and 21 of them involve people accidentally shooting themselves.

Seven of our listings involved law enforcement officers, active duty military, or security guards. Their seven accidents wounded three and killed two, including the astonishing death of a Marine guard posted at the entrance to Camp Lejeune, NC, accidentally shot by the other guard with whom he was standing duty.

So you have no suggestions for practical or workable approaches.

[Minimalist]

None that the gun nuts will accept.

They want to continue to be free to shoot themselves in the ass. That does not bother me. It's when they shoot other people in the ass that I get concerned.

You see, what this series of articles I've been posting shows that it is not "criminals" who are the main problem. It is idiots.

We have no plans to stop idiots from getting guns.

Please think of some.

[Chas]

None that the gun nuts will accept.

They want to continue to be free to shoot themselves in the ass. That does not bother me. It's when they shoot other people in the ass that I get concerned.

You see, what this series of articles I've been posting shows that it is not "criminals" who are the main problem. It is idiots.

We have no plans to stop idiots from getting guns.

Please think of some.

No, the number of firearms-related deaths by homicide far outweighs the accidental deaths.

Reasonable restrictions would include training and licensing just like we do to keep SUVs out of the hands of idiots. That works so well.

[KUSA]

We have no plans to stop idiots from getting guns.

Please humor us with your ideas.