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proselytizing
#51
RE: proselytizing
(September 5, 2009 at 8:29 pm)dry land fish Wrote: I can't believe they ban smoking in your car with children under 13.

Well whilst I think it should be common sense.. the principle is right. You've gotta be pretty brain dead to do such a thing, and a law protecting children like this sounds good to me.
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#52
RE: proselytizing
I don't smoke around my kids....It's my enjoyable habit, not theirs.....Smile

Gross or not DLF...I try to be as respectful as possible about my smoking....but someone can kiss my white ass if they start spurting out to me about health problems or it being bad for me, or how gross it is, yada yada yada.......Tongue)

There are far more worse disgusting bad things for people out there than smoking.....Like raising your children up to believe in the Christian Bible as a literal truth and moral book is the most disgusting and sick minded thing I've just about came across..But sadly enough, the parents are too "Brain Dead" to know what they are doing....Tongue
Intelligence is the only true moral guide...
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#53
RE: proselytizing
I could care less even if a pregnant woman smokes. Pregnant women here smoke and they smoke while holding infants here. There is no law against smoking around your kids here. I have a picture of me around six months of age with a non lit cigarette hanging out of my mouth. Apparently my cousin thought it would be funny to take one. It's in the family album that NO ONE ever sees! I would never smoke while pregnant or smoke around kids...but that's their choice. If they don't care for their kids smelling it then more power to them. I don't care where anyone smokes as long as they don't force me or my kid to have to smell it. I would never go around telling someone how bad it was for them....if they are old enough to smoke they should know how bad it is and again that's their choice. The only time I'm not annoyed at a smoker is when I'm in their home or their car and they light one. I have no right to tell them they can't smoke around me in their own home. In public...it's another thing.

Oh I saw an old man at a festival last year in a wheel chair with a portable oxygen tank and he would move his oxygen mask to take a puff and then put it back on. It was hilarious. We were betting on when he'd blow himself up.
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#54
RE: proselytizing
LOLOLOL....If you have to wear an oxygen mask and are still smoking, then maybe the best thing that could ever happen to that person would be the damn tank blowing up..... Jeeshh..lolol

I don't smoke in a crowded area in public, nor do I smoke in-doors...I do try and respect those who do not smoke...Smile
Intelligence is the only true moral guide...
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#55
RE: proselytizing
(September 5, 2009 at 10:48 pm)dry land fish Wrote: If they don't care for their kids smelling it then more power to them.

It's not a matter of smelling bad DLF. It's the damage to the kids health that's the issue. I wouldn't knowingly put my kids in that situation because of the risk to their health.

People doing physical damage to their own children can't be good. Like with any abuse, it's fine to be legislated against.
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#56
RE: proselytizing
Well I would think that even for all you unashamed smokers, there's a point when perhaps even you would think about quitting, to quote Bill Hicks:

"[...]If you're smoking through a hole in your neck...I'd think about quitting".

Quoted from memory, may be verbatim may be slightly paraphrased.

Also a note that he smoked like a fucking chimney and died at 32 with lung cancer because of it... :S

P.S: Where did the smoking part come up? Is this at least, semi-on-topic? (I haven't read the whole thread...).

EvF
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#57
RE: proselytizing
Well we're just addressing every extreme view DLF comes up with.. the thread has never been about it's title.

(like the quote BTW)
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#58
RE: proselytizing
Ok fair enough I suppose, hopefully my post was of some interest then Big Grin

EvF
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#59
RE: proselytizing
(September 6, 2009 at 8:55 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Well I would think that even for all you unashamed smokers, there's a point when perhaps even you would think about quitting, to quote Bill Hicks:

"[...]If you're smoking through a hole in your neck...I'd think about quitting".

Quoted from memory, may be verbatim may be slightly paraphrased.

Also a note that he smoked like a fucking chimney and died at 32 with lung cancer because of it... :S

P.S: Where did the smoking part come up? Is this at least, semi-on-topic? (I haven't read the whole thread...).

EvF

Bill Hicks died of pancreatic cancer. Smoking has been shown to affect the probability of developing pancreatic cancer and was probably one of the main causes in his case.

It's a sad thing that Hicks died so young, one of the greatest stand-up comedians in my opinion.
"Heresy is only another word for freedom of thought." - Graham Greene
"So forget Jesus, the stars died so that you could be here today." - Lawrence Krauss
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#60
RE: proselytizing
I agree too. He was. And I forgot that it was pancreatic and not lung cancer, apologies.

In his stand-up he used to say he smoked so much he went through 2 lighters a day...maybe he wasn't joking.

EvF
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