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The Finnish state church is dying..
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RE: The Finnish state church is dying..
(February 26, 2013 at 3:06 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Good. The less of that meddlesome, psychotic wanker, the better.

Actually the death of a whole Group of Churches is never a good thing. For with the death of an entire denomination/church man's iniquity increases. At some point Man's iniquity will over flow, and God will have had enough.
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#12
RE: The Finnish state church is dying..
Cool story, bro.
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#13
RE: The Finnish state church is dying..
(February 27, 2013 at 1:47 am)Drich Wrote: Actually the death of a whole Group of Churches is never a good thing. For with the death of an entire denomination/church man's iniquity increases. At some point Man's iniquity will over flow, and God will have had enough.

You're wrong. Secular people tend to do better than religious..
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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#14
RE: The Finnish state church is dying..
I like the idea of a church (1) paying taxes (2) being treated like any corporation with assets (3) having audits (4) a customer can then go to a government agency with a complain and have more confidence that it will be enacted upon.

How religious institutions got special dispensations and are "hands off" and still are to this very day is beyond me.

3 items to demonstrate:
1) Church leader in Massachusetts escapes to vatican for protection from pedephelia laws. Church is not liable.
2) A Rebbe in NYC threatens the membership if any of them testify on a Jewish pediphelia charge, and they ship the pervert to Israel (thanks, not!)
3) An Amish elder sends an Amish pedephile (Indiana community) to another community (Florida) for internal correction and their members remain mum.

With responsibility to their customer base, with government oversight, these creepy leaders or their communities would not get away unscathed...perhaps.
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders
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#15
RE: The Finnish state church is dying..
(February 27, 2013 at 1:47 am)Drich Wrote:
(February 26, 2013 at 3:06 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Good. The less of that meddlesome, psychotic wanker, the better.

Actually the death of a whole Group of Churches is never a good thing. For with the death of an entire denomination/church man's iniquity increases. At some point Man's iniquity will over flow, and God will have had enough.

Real men has long had more than enough of the iniquities of the cults of your nonexistent "god". So go shove it up your prayer hole.
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#16
RE: The Finnish state church is dying..
(February 27, 2013 at 2:04 am)Kayenneh Wrote:
(February 27, 2013 at 1:47 am)Drich Wrote: Actually the death of a whole Group of Churches is never a good thing. For with the death of an entire denomination/church man's iniquity increases. At some point Man's iniquity will over flow, and God will have had enough.

You're wrong. Secular people tend to do better than religious..

Big Grin
the Nazis treated POWs better than the Japaneese did durning WWII, but in the end I do not think anyone would have willing surrendered their freedom to the Nazis if given the choice.

Without a true standard to compare oneself to, it's easy to say Y is better than X. For what is X really? X is a trivial measure at best, if X is not an absolute standard.
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#17
RE: The Finnish state church is dying..
Did I just find another godwin?


Actualy no.

Drich, this was the most meaningless and stupid bunch of crap I read in a long time. Do these lines make even any sence to you?
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#18
RE: The Finnish state church is dying..
(February 27, 2013 at 5:32 pm)Drich Wrote: Big Grin
the Nazis treated POWs better than the Japaneese did durning WWII, but in the end I do not think anyone would have willing surrendered their freedom to the Nazis if given the choice.

Confusedhock: WTF???

Do you have any clue what the Nazis did?!? That is one of the most stupid things that I have ever heard "The Nazis weren't so bad compared to the Japanese."

puleese... Argue
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders
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#19
RE: The Finnish state church is dying..
(February 27, 2013 at 1:47 am)Drich Wrote:
(February 26, 2013 at 3:06 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Good. The less of that meddlesome, psychotic wanker, the better.

Actually the death of a whole Group of Churches is never a good thing. For with the death of an entire denomination/church man's iniquity increases. At some point Man's iniquity will over flow, and God will have had enough.

Nonsense - the death of a religion points to the increase in intelligence and education of the population. ANd that is a good thing - and it is NOT limited to just the Scandinavian area. Religion is slowly disappearing in large portions of the Western World - and the world is BETTER for it.

(February 27, 2013 at 2:38 am)EGross Wrote: I like the idea of a church (1) paying taxes (2) being treated like any corporation with assets (3) having audits (4) a customer can then go to a government agency with a complain and have more confidence that it will be enacted upon.

How religious institutions got special dispensations and are "hands off" and still are to this very day is beyond me.

3 items to demonstrate:
1) Church leader in Massachusetts escapes to vatican for protection from pedephelia laws. Church is not liable.
2) A Rebbe in NYC threatens the membership if any of them testify on a Jewish pediphelia charge, and they ship the pervert to Israel (thanks, not!)
3) An Amish elder sends an Amish pedephile (Indiana community) to another community (Florida) for internal correction and their members remain mum.




With responsibility to their customer base, with government oversight, these creepy leaders or their communities would not get away unscathed...perhaps.

Actually - the above is simply more evidence that a god is not involved in the world.
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#20
RE: The Finnish state church is dying..
(February 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm)Drich Wrote: God is not a respecter of religion for the sake of religion nor tradition for the sake of tradition. Churches tend to die when God stops going to them.

You know this...how?
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.

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