God Loves Me, Too

[John V]

Because sometimes no matter how much one tries to like something, it is always going to taste nasty. The same can be stated for sexual tastes. No matter how many times one has sex with a sexually unsastifying individual, the sex is not going to get any better. Some people simply are not sexually compatible. That is just the way it is.

Repeating the assertion doesn't support or explain it.

In this scenario, we have two people who have love, trust, communication, and physical attraction. Why can't they learn to touch each other in pleasing ways?

[festive1]

Because sex is awesome. Because orgasms are awesome. I couldn't imagine never having good sex, and not even knowing I was having mediocre/bad sex and thinking that was as good as it gets... I definitely think this is different for women than for men.

This doesn't address the question. Yes, sex is awesome. Why can't it be awesome for two people who marry as virgins? Even if it's not awesome at first, why can't they learn? It's certainly fun to practice.

The female orgasm. The difficulty achieving female orgasm on the first attempts at sex. Or that a lot of women can't reach orgasm during penetrative sex and need clitoral stimulation. These pristine virgins are unlikely to have explored their own bodies. Women who don't masturbate have a more difficult time achieving orgasm during sex. If you don't know your own body how can you direct a partner to give you pleasure? Lots of, "No not there... A little more to the left... No a little slower... No a little more pressure..." And if she's never had an orgasm before, that is difficult to direct.

[Faith No More]

I do not do that and I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, sometimes I stress my point strongly, but it's usually when someone does not answer a specific point I'll make. I realize where I'm at in arguments on this site, and I always hope something I say may make a difference, but I do not push my Christianity in a way to make you try and believe. Remember this please, I of all who are or have been on this forum am as strong of a believer in free will as any, and that if the Holy Spirit is not working with a person there is no need to witness.

Are you for or against gay marriage?

[John V]

The female orgasm. The difficulty achieving female orgasm on the first attempts at sex. Or that a lot of women can't reach orgasm during penetrative sex and need clitoral stimulation. These pristine virgins are unlikely to have explored their own bodies.

I would think someone who's waiting for marriage is more likely to have explored their own bodies. Can you support this theory that women don't masturbate until they've lost their virginity? It sounds like you're just making shit up at this point.

[KichigaiNeko]

This doesn't address the question. Yes, sex is awesome. Why can't it be awesome for two people who marry as virgins? Even if it's not awesome at first, why can't they learn? It's certainly fun to practice.

The female orgasm. The difficulty achieving female orgasm on the first attempts at sex. Or that a lot of women can't reach orgasm during penetrative sex and need clitoral stimulation. These pristine virgins are unlikely to have explored their own bodies. Women who don't masturbate have a more difficult time achieving orgasm during sex. If you don't know your own body how can you direct a partner to give you pleasure? Lots of, "No not there... A little more to the left... No a little slower... No a little more pressure..." And if she's never had an orgasm before, that is difficult to direct.

So much for the 72 virgins. Is this Allah's ultimate insult to islam?

[festive1]

John... Does this woman masturbate and know how to achieve orgasm on her own? (refering to the woman from the couple at the end of the clip)??
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp-jZyzQSms
It doesn't strike me that she does... Alien face hugger kissing... I appreciate this is an extreme example and people have different sexual desires, but... Having one's face partially eaten... I think most people find that unsexy.

[John V]

John... Does this woman masturbate and know how to achieve orgasm on her own? (refering to the woman from the couple at the end of the clip)??
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp-jZyzQSms
It doesn't strike me that she does... Alien face hugger kissing... I appreciate this is an extreme example and people have different sexual desires, but... Having one's face partially eaten... I think most people find that unsexy.

Sorry, I don't watch videos here, and especially not of someone having their face partially eaten. The fact that you must resort to such admitted extremes should tell you that your argument is shit - just a projection of your bias against religion.

[The Grand Nudger]

In this scenario, we have two people who have love, trust, communication, and physical attraction. Why can't they learn to touch each other in pleasing ways?

Perhaps because one doesn't have the penis the other one needs to touch to have a fulfilling sexlife - or the reverse, that one does have a penis and this bars a fulfilling sexlife for the other? I'm not sure how hard you'd have to try to learn how to have/not have a penis......

I mean c'mon, easy questions easy answers.

[Neo-Scholastic]

This thread just keeps getting juicier and juicier! Don't stop...pleeeaaaase.

[The Grand Nudger]

Try your left hand amigo.