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The Origin of the Garden of Eden Story
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Malus = latin for apple.
yeah that could work Rhythm. No on said that the writers of the abrahamic religious texts had any knowledge least of all latin "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
 (April 22, 2013 at 8:01 am)archangle Wrote: To think that the Jews came up with religion is foolish. Almost every group of people around the world had a creation story. And many "new" religions used pieces of the "old" religion that they replaced. "eat this apple and know everything about god". And they don't see that exact same thing as offering a "literal bible" as the word of god. And we are the evil ones that reject the apple. Not only all of that but the Judean Yahweh cult was most likely created for them as a backstory for the dictatorial tyranny of Maccabe rule. Made in Alexandria: The Origin of the Yahweh Cult I have "confirmed" this theory in the scientific sense by making correct predictions using it.  (April 22, 2013 at 7:14 pm)A_Nony_Mouse Wrote: Not only all of that but the Judean Yahweh cult was most likely created for them as a backstory for the dictatorial tyranny of Maccabe rule. How does one make predictions using an old text? Some kind of magic? Or do you mean you picked something to look for, then went and "found" it??? . RE: The Origin of the Garden of Eden Story
April 22, 2013 at 8:22 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2013 at 8:23 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It's easy Cat (like it always is). If narrative x was based on fact y, then we would expect to find evidence z. Whether or not Nony is correct has no bearing on the relative ease (and utter lack of magic involved in the use)of this method.
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That seems about as equivalent as reading a map and "predicting" that you'll make it to Florida...
RE: The Origin of the Garden of Eden Story
April 22, 2013 at 8:33 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2013 at 8:34 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
-If the map is accurate - and I follow this path- then I should make it to Florida.
Something tells me that you didn't think that one through....as it's directly equivalent and wholly representative of the same method.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
It's not a prediction if it's about past events.
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Well then, all he has to do now is "discover" the "ancient gospel of Giwer" which predicted stuff like the Cold War and Coke Zero and Derek Jeter's broken ankle and was written two thousand years ago. *snicker*
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould RE: The Origin of the Garden of Eden Story
April 22, 2013 at 8:37 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2013 at 8:41 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
If the map is 50 years old, it is a predication based upon the assumption of the accuracy of the map - or the ability of the mapmakers. It's negation or confirmation would tell us something about one or the other. To be honest, the map could be 50 milliseconds old, the prediction of a future event is where I will end up if a and b
This really isn't that confusing. The date that the map was made has very little bearing on whatever future prediction I might make to test the map. You can predict the discovery of evidence of past events in precisely the same manner. If x happened as y said then we would expect to find supporting evidence z (much stronger if we don't already have it, btw)- as has already been explained.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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