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RE: Specific Properties/Attributes of God
April 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm
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If you didn't know much about it (and just went out a lookin for it) then wouldn;t it be fair to say that none of it had any influence of your personal perception of the attributes of your god or spiritual system? IOW, how could something you were not previously aware of have had an effect on your personal appraisal of either? Wouldn't it be accurate to say that you believed in something that was, in truth, unconnected to this if only by ignorance of it?
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RE: Specific Properties/Attributes of God
April 24, 2013 at 5:31 pm
(April 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: If you didn't know much about it (and just went out a lookin for it) then wouldn;t it be fair to say that none of it had any influence of your personal perception of the attributes of your god or spiritual system? IOW, how could something you were not previously aware of have had an effect on your personal appraisal of either? Wouldn't it be accurate to say that you believed in something that was, in truth, unconnected to this if only by ignorance of it? In specific details would be hard for me to describe.
Basic thing I know.
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RE: Specific Properties/Attributes of God
April 24, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Right, so, some form of hinduism or another, eh? Of the basics you know, how did you acquire this knowledge?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Specific Properties/Attributes of God
April 24, 2013 at 5:55 pm
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Im know more about spiritual side of this matter that involves philosophy, logic and faith.
How universe was created require much faith to start take it seriously.
Like in Bible. In the beginning there was a word...
We humans to create something first need to have idea, then we use words, like "i would like to buy those materials", then we build a houseuse for our dog as example.
God only thinks about something and its was momenterally materialized.
Universe was created from Gods thoughts. There are millions of demigods that sustain it.
3 main Gods.
Shiva - controls energy of destruction. In humans its a tendency for selfdestruction tru pleasure and violence.
Brahma - controls energy of passion - in humans its tendency for progress.
Vishnu - energy of goodness. In people its a tendemcy for altruism, humanism, love - giving and forgiving.
And then there is Supreme Lord, Godhead Krishna.
Krishna is Gods highest personality. Because in this personality God only enjoys, everyone else serves him, working.
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RE: Specific Properties/Attributes of God
April 24, 2013 at 6:03 pm
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(April 24, 2013 at 5:55 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Im know more about spiritual side of this matter that involves philosophy, logic and faith.
How universe was created require much faith to start take it seriously.
Like in Bible. In the beginning there was a word...
We humans to create something first need to have idea, then we use words, like "i would like to buy those materials", then we build a houseuse for our dog as example.
God only thinks about something and its was momenterally materialized.
Universe was created from Gods thoughts. Well, I'm not sure I'd be entirely comfortable with the idea that any observation of how a human being does something would hold true in the case of a god. I also find it alarmingly convenient that in describing gods they seem to be so...well... human.
Quote: There are millions of demigods that sustain it.
I think, perhaps, before we start to pin down the number of spirits involved -that there are millions of demigods (or what have yous)- we ought to first demonstrate that there are any at all. Does that seem reasonable to you?
Quote:3 main Gods.
Similar situation as to the above.
Quote:Shiva - controls energy of destruction. In humans its a tendency for selfdestruction try pleasure and violence.
Brahma - controls energy of passion - in humans its tendency for progress.
Vishnu - energy of goodness. In people its a tendemcy for altruism, humanism, love - giving and forgiving.
Yeah I know these three, I'm aware that stories are told - what I'm wondering is what compelled you to assign any measure of truth to those few attributes listed. For example, how do you know that that attributes listed for Shiva (and again - amusingly, what that relates to in humans - to you) aren't - more accurately, the attributes of Vishnu, for example?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Specific Properties/Attributes of God
April 24, 2013 at 6:05 pm
Information aquired from teachers and other students in Sri Chaitanya Saraswat math.
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RE: Specific Properties/Attributes of God
April 24, 2013 at 6:06 pm
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From which one would have a reasonable assumption of accuracy in the case of switching attributes between any of them because.....?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Specific Properties/Attributes of God
April 24, 2013 at 6:17 pm
Demigods have simple souls in them, but they have much power stored.
Pleasure and violence deplete that power. Serving and suffering increases it.
Vishnu is the strongest in strength plus this God expansion sustains life in universe.
Shiva controls energy of ignorance and all that connected to it.
Brahma reprisents energy of passion, progress.
We atomic souls, parts of God are actors in drama called material world. Demigods are actors whit very good position. But position is lost tru denying of serving and going for pleasure and violence. Once we all were highest among demigods but degradation might even lead us to bodies of animals. Its called karma. Bear - too much sleeping. Bunny - too much lust.
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RE: Specific Properties/Attributes of God
April 24, 2013 at 6:22 pm
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Well, I don't know that a bears sleeping is really an issue for karma to handle - they hibernate, it' part of their life cycle and how they survive (and it's genetic).....it's not like they're being lazy or anything...bunnies are in a similar predicament - or did I misread this?
In any case, the question I'm asking is that of any of these attributes -the ones claimed before and the ones added now- how do you know (or how did your teachers or other students know) that we don't have them mixed up?
Perhaps Shiva is the strongest, Vishnu is passion, and Brahma is ignorance?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Specific Properties/Attributes of God
April 24, 2013 at 6:22 pm
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(April 24, 2013 at 6:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: From which one would have a reasonable assumption of accuracy in the case of switching attributes between any of them because.....? Faith.
When you buy something in market, and on pack it says - nutrition facts, you believe, that they are facts because you didintg tested in lab contetnt yourself.
You marry someone and you believe that she will make you happy.
You never even once visit church or pray to a God coz you BELIEVE that there is no God.
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