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Why isn't there a Judaism sub forum?
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RE: Why isn't there a Judaism sub forum?
(April 28, 2013 at 9:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I have a Damned Jews thread...to go along with the Damned Catholics, Damned Protestants, and Damned Muslims threads in News and Activism.

Jews are simply nowhere near as bad as the others.

Considering Jews were the first to spread their religion by military force what criteria are you using for "bad." Is giving Christians and Muslims bad ideas something good?

The entire idea of having a list of do's and don'ts for which the penalty is death is found only in very backwards places and Judea.

The only way I can see "less bad" is for lack of opportunity.

(April 28, 2013 at 9:13 pm)Darkstar Wrote:
(April 28, 2013 at 9:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Jews are simply nowhere near as bad as the others.

Which is rather ironic considering the fact that they only have the OT to go by...

But if you honestly read it the list of rituals and taboos for which the penalty is summary execution on the word of a priest would certainly have been the envy of Stalin's police state and political officers.

(April 28, 2013 at 10:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I don't know any religious jews. Most of the "jews" I know think the OT is an absurd story.

They also think kosher cooking sucks balls.

I find I like them way more than xtians.

There are only religious Jews. Those who claim to be Jews but not observant are a political invention of Zionism, as in The Invention of the Jewish People.
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#12
RE: Why isn't there a Judaism sub forum?
Quote:Considering Jews were the first to spread their religion by military force what criteria are you using for "bad."

They've been on the receiving end for quite some time.


Quote:Those who claim to be Jews but not observant are a political invention of Zionism,


Well, I know quite a few...a consequence of having lived in NY...and they would disagree with you. Quite a number think the Israelis are murdering bastards....but you don't want to hear that, I think.
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#13
RE: Why isn't there a Judaism sub forum?
(April 28, 2013 at 7:00 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Has a Jewish person joined these forums before? I don't recall any from my time. Nor do I recall an discussions of Judaism that were not simply side discussions of how it related/didn't relate to Christianity.

*Points at Summer and EGross
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RE: Why isn't there a Judaism sub forum?
(April 29, 2013 at 12:38 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Considering Jews were the first to spread their religion by military force what criteria are you using for "bad."

They've been on the receiving end for quite some time.

Haven't murderers and thieves been on the receiving end way too long also? Since when does being on the receiving end change the nature of the action? Since when does starting a fight you can't finish change the nature of the action?

Since when does which sect of Judaism including Christian that one chooses merit a different estimation of the nature of individual sects? Were that the case the centuries of persecution of the Karaite Jews by the Rabbinical Jews would put the Karaites at the top of the food change.

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Quote:Those who claim to be Jews but not observant are a political invention of Zionism,

Well, I know quite a few...a consequence of having lived in NY...and they would disagree with you. Quite a number think the Israelis are murdering bastards....but you don't want to hear that, I think.

I've got people all over the world who disagree with me. However The Invention of the Jewish People [Paperback] Shlomo Sand (Author), Yael Lotan (Translator) says the same thing but doesn't hit the zionism as hard as he might, Being a professor of history at Tel Aviv University in Israel might mitigate that. It is the same thing I was saying for years before it was published.

Absent this invention Jews most resemble a fraternal organization with a women's auxiliary but the match isn't perfect. One of the mismatches is one is able to say fuck the fraternity and all it stands for and remain a member in good standing even if "self-hating" which is a uniquely jewish stigma which requires public confession as in the Soviet Union and 1984.

Back when I did not have this book to point to as backup, which gave the arguments I made in much greater detail from someone who could not be accused of antisemitism, I used to issue a challenge which I will now repeat instead of correcting wrong answers first.

Name something other than religion which unites ALL the world's Jews other than religion. I am certain everyone participating here understands the meaning of the word ALL. I also assume people here know "other people make the same mistake" is not the same as providing something other than religion. So no idiotic shit like Dawkins declaring himself an ethnic Christian need be posted.

(April 29, 2013 at 12:38 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Those who claim to be Jews but not observant are a political invention of Zionism,

Well, I know quite a few...a consequence of having lived in NY...and they would disagree with you. Quite a number think the Israelis are murdering bastards....but you don't want to hear that, I think.

For a fact I have identified Zionists as murdering bastards for several decades because that is what they are including their Christian enablers.
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Re: Why isn't there a Judaism sub forum?
A_Nony_Mouse is my hero!
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#16
RE: Why isn't there a Judaism sub forum?
(April 28, 2013 at 7:00 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Has a Jewish person joined these forums before? I don't recall any from my time.

Well Summer will be disappointed you've said that.
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RE: Why isn't there a Judaism sub forum?
(April 29, 2013 at 12:34 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(April 28, 2013 at 7:00 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Has a Jewish person joined these forums before? I don't recall any from my time.

Well Summer will be disappointed you've said that.

And I have challenged her on how an atheist can be a Jew to no resolution.
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#18
RE: Why isn't there a Judaism sub forum?
(April 29, 2013 at 12:56 pm)A_Nony_Mouse Wrote: And I have challenged her on how an atheist can be a Jew to no resolution.

Well, last I checked Jews were classed as an 'ethnoreligious' group...

So, it is possible to be a Jew by ethnicity.
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#19
RE: Why isn't there a Judaism sub forum?
(April 28, 2013 at 9:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I have a Damned Jews thread...to go along with the Damned Catholics, Damned Protestants, and Damned Muslims threads in News and Activism.

Jews are simply nowhere near as bad as the others.

Most of the Jews I know suck at being stupid and acting loutishly.
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#20
RE: Why isn't there a Judaism sub forum?
(April 28, 2013 at 9:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Jews are simply nowhere near as bad as the others.

Jews don't knock on my door on Saturday morning asking if I've found Moses or whether or not my soul is prepared for Sheol if I were to die tomorrow.

In fact, provided you don't live on a piece of real-estate on the eastern Med that was promised to them by their celestial Realtor in the sky, they pretty much leave you alone.

I admire that in a religion.
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