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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 9, 2013 at 2:02 am
(October 9, 2013 at 1:51 am)Crossless1 Wrote: After all, if not for you, how will poor Yahweh/Jesus ever defend himself from the big, bad skeptics? You're a champion of faith! Time to step up!
Exactly this: if she's so confident in her arguments for god, if they're that convincing to her, she should have no trouble mustering up the wherewithal to defend them. If she backs out, it shows just how little she thinks of her own skills.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 9, 2013 at 3:22 am
Just some more grist for the mill.
This is an excellent summary from Wikipedia of evolution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of...ry_of_life
There's a lot of denying to do for this one - and all the underlying research papers at the bottom of course.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 9, 2013 at 6:12 am
(October 9, 2013 at 1:19 am)Esquilax Wrote: I just want to get her into a format where she's forced to address contentions brought against her, rather than just ignoring whatever it is she doesn't like.
Changing the format won't fix that, she'll just do the same thing and the debate will be forfeited. Then she'll claim victory and continue the charade. I think it's clear that what you see is what you get.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 9, 2013 at 6:45 am
(October 9, 2013 at 3:22 am)max-greece Wrote: Just some more grist for the mill.
This is an excellent summary from Wikipedia of evolution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of...ry_of_life
There's a lot of denying to do for this one - and all the underlying research papers at the bottom of course.
There are many creationist sites which have plenty of evidence to disprove the site you gave.
icr.org
answersingenesis.org
creationtoday.org
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 9, 2013 at 6:50 am
(October 9, 2013 at 6:45 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: There are many creationist sites which have plenty of evidence to disprove the site you gave.
icr.org
answersingenesis.org
creationtoday.org
Do you know what else they have? That's right, one of those assumptions you think disproves everything they say out of hand!
AiG and ICR Wrote:By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record.
creationtoday Wrote:No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and science, can be valid if it contradicts Scripture.
Since they work from an assumption, their stuff is wrong by default, right? That's what you said earlier.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 9, 2013 at 6:51 am
(October 9, 2013 at 6:45 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: (October 9, 2013 at 3:22 am)max-greece Wrote: Just some more grist for the mill.
This is an excellent summary from Wikipedia of evolution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of...ry_of_life
There's a lot of denying to do for this one - and all the underlying research papers at the bottom of course.
There are many creationist sites which have plenty of evidence to disprove the site you gave.
icr.org
answersingenesis.org
creationtoday.org
But none of them with the underlying research in peer-reviewed journals.
Here's the thing Gracie. What you've got are unsubstantiated theories with nothing behind them but an old book. What we've got is millions of man years of research, sweat and toil behind the tiny tip of the iceberg that we show you on the net.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 9, 2013 at 7:17 am
(October 9, 2013 at 6:51 am)max-greece Wrote: (October 9, 2013 at 6:45 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: There are many creationist sites which have plenty of evidence to disprove the site you gave.
icr.org
answersingenesis.org
creationtoday.org
But none of them with the underlying research in peer-reviewed journals.
Here's the thing Gracie. What you've got are unsubstantiated theories with nothing behind them but an old book. What we've got is millions of man years of research, sweat and toil behind the tiny tip of the iceberg that we show you on the net.
They sure do have peer reviews.
They just are censored by those who are blinded by the "no God" assumption.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 9, 2013 at 7:40 am
(October 9, 2013 at 7:17 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: (October 9, 2013 at 6:51 am)max-greece Wrote: But none of them with the underlying research in peer-reviewed journals.
Here's the thing Gracie. What you've got are unsubstantiated theories with nothing behind them but an old book. What we've got is millions of man years of research, sweat and toil behind the tiny tip of the iceberg that we show you on the net.
They sure do have peer reviews.
They just are censored by those who are blinded by the "no God" assumption.
You still don't see that not making the god assumption is not the same as making the no god assumption.
You have the mind of a child.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 9, 2013 at 7:42 am
(October 9, 2013 at 7:17 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: They just are censored by those who are blinded by the "no God" assumption.
Then, by your own logic, all of the sources you cited that "have peer reviews" are blinded by their god assumption, and therefore invalid.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 9, 2013 at 7:44 am
(October 9, 2013 at 7:40 am)Chas Wrote: (October 9, 2013 at 7:17 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: They sure do have peer reviews.
They just are censored by those who are blinded by the "no God" assumption.
You still don't see that not making the god assumption is not the same as making the no god assumption.
You have the mind of a child.
I proved the 'no God" assumption false with 2 proofs.
Proof 1:
by contradiction
assume no God
that leads to countless contradictions
therefore the no God assumption is false.
There God exists
Proof 2:
By Modus Ponens
1. If the universe and life have vast complexity that only an intelligent creator could cause then the universe and life is created by its Creator, God
2. the universe and life have vast complexity that only an intelligent creator could cause
3. Therefore, the universe and life is created by its Creator, God.
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