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Purchasing One's Atheism Cheaply
#31
RE: Purchasing One's Atheism Cheaply
So what we need is some good old fashioned Atheist Martyrs, of course, why didn't I see it sooner.

What a pile of crap.
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#32
RE: Purchasing One's Atheism Cheaply
While this may not be popular post, there is a grain of truth to the OP. The arguments in favor of atheism are overwhelming, while atheism and its proponents have become much more prominent in recent years. Its quite easy to win debates on the subject without developing any real intellectual depth. To call yourself an atheist and defend the position used to be much harder than it is now. Much less independent thinking is required because the best talking points have already been pointed out by people like Richard Dawkins. Those of us who came before had to figure it out for ourselves.
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#33
RE: Purchasing One's Atheism Cheaply
(October 5, 2013 at 11:18 am)_xenu_ Wrote: While this may not be popular post, there is a grain of truth to the OP. The arguments in favor of atheism are overwhelming, while atheism and its proponents have become much more prominent in recent years. Its quite easy to win debates on the subject without developing any real intellectual depth. To call yourself an atheist and defend the position used to be much harder than it is now. Much less independent thinking is required because the best talking points have already been pointed out by people like Richard Dawkins. Those of us who came before had to figure it out for ourselves.
Thanks for doing the groundwork, old timer!

Now, we can just surf the wave and keep the boat going!
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#34
RE: Purchasing One's Atheism Cheaply
(October 5, 2013 at 11:24 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(October 5, 2013 at 11:18 am)_xenu_ Wrote: While this may not be popular post, there is a grain of truth to the OP. The arguments in favor of atheism are overwhelming, while atheism and its proponents have become much more prominent in recent years. Its quite easy to win debates on the subject without developing any real intellectual depth. To call yourself an atheist and defend the position used to be much harder than it is now. Much less independent thinking is required because the best talking points have already been pointed out by people like Richard Dawkins. Those of us who came before had to figure it out for ourselves.
Thanks for doing the groundwork, old timer!

Now, we can just surf the wave and keep the boat going!
LOL. Thanks but I'm only 32. When I came of age, AOL was dominant and the Internet as you know it was in its infancy. I learned much more through introspection and debate than anything someone else wrote.
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#35
RE: Purchasing One's Atheism Cheaply
(October 5, 2013 at 11:18 am)_xenu_ Wrote: While this may not be popular post, there is a grain of truth to the OP. The arguments in favor of atheism are overwhelming, while atheism and its proponents have become much more prominent in recent years. Its quite easy to win debates on the subject without developing any real intellectual depth. To call yourself an atheist and defend the position used to be much harder than it is now. Much less independent thinking is required because the best talking points have already been pointed out by people like Richard Dawkins. Those of us who came before had to figure it out for ourselves.

I don't really feel ashamed of employing a correct answer just because it's an old one. Sure, I employ counter apologetics that I read somewhere else, but it a conclusion has weight then it doesn't matter if I thought it up myself or not.

I'd rather be correct and called a dullard, than creative but incorrect. Happily, I can usually be both of the former.
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#36
RE: Purchasing One's Atheism Cheaply
(October 5, 2013 at 11:18 am)_xenu_ Wrote: While this may not be popular post, there is a grain of truth to the OP. The arguments in favor of atheism are overwhelming, while atheism and its proponents have become much more prominent in recent years. Its quite easy to win debates on the subject without developing any real intellectual depth. To call yourself an atheist and defend the position used to be much harder than it is now. Much less independent thinking is required because the best talking points have already been pointed out by people like Richard Dawkins. Those of us who came before had to figure it out for ourselves.

I don't really care about popularity, but once you get a few years of trying to argue with theists you will find yourself wasting your time, e.g. the playing chess with a pigeon allegory. There may be atheist fanboys of Dawkins, Hitchens, etc, but they don't really matter to me, all there is, is layer after layer of bullshit, and if you are willing to entertain that, be my guest. I prefer to discuss matters sans imaginary beings. I am open to know any gods, but I don't want it to be a personal whim that I push into others, because I feel it.
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#37
RE: Purchasing One's Atheism Cheaply
(October 5, 2013 at 11:33 am)_xenu_ Wrote:
(October 5, 2013 at 11:24 am)pocaracas Wrote: Thanks for doing the groundwork, old timer!

Now, we can just surf the wave and keep the boat going!
LOL. Thanks but I'm only 32. When I came of age, AOL was dominant and the Internet as you know it was in its infancy. I learned much more through introspection and debate than anything someone else wrote.

lol... I'll be 33 later this year.
My initial introspection was at the nice age of 10. At the time, I though I was the only person aware of the possibility of the non existence of god... silly me...
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#38
RE: Purchasing One's Atheism Cheaply
(October 5, 2013 at 11:39 am)LastPoet Wrote: I don't really care about popularity, but once you get a few years of trying to argue with theists you will find yourself wasting your time, e.g. the playing chess with a pigeon allegory.
I came to the same conclusion many years ago. Its why I prefer to leave that sort of thing to people still figuring it out.
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#39
RE: Purchasing One's Atheism Cheaply
A 1980 man, like I am poca Big Grin

ETA: the eighties were tyhe Siznit!!! Tongue
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#40
RE: Purchasing One's Atheism Cheaply
(October 5, 2013 at 11:40 am)pocaracas Wrote: lol... I'll be 33 later this year.
My initial introspection was at the nice age of 10. At the time, I though I was the only person aware of the possibility of the non existence of god... silly me...
I started questioning it even earlier, when I was maybe six or seven. I had strong suspicions even then.

(October 5, 2013 at 11:38 am)Esquilax Wrote: I don't really feel ashamed of employing a correct answer just because it's an old one. Sure, I employ counter apologetics that I read somewhere else, but it a conclusion has weight then it doesn't matter if I thought it up myself or not.

I'd rather be correct and called a dullard, than creative but incorrect. Happily, I can usually be both of the former.
Then you will never have the depth of someone who had to work things out on their own. Its like comparing someone who created a new industry to someone who merely followed them.

(October 5, 2013 at 11:43 am)LastPoet Wrote: A 1980 man, like I am poca Big Grin

ETA: the eighties were tyhe Siznit!!! Tongue
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