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RE: What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
October 12, 2013 at 6:07 am
(October 10, 2013 at 8:03 pm)HUMAN BRAIN Wrote: ****************************************************
I think that , Darwin hypothesis is a logic 'interpret' for the beginning and Evolution of all organists , and all objections to it were found to be weak . this hypothesis lead us to some questions to complete the whole picture; if the beginning was some 'molecules and atoms ' which combined together to constitute some biological cells ( by accident ) , and these cells started to multiply and produce different organists , and evolution occurred due to the " natural selection " and\or, due to the variations of the surrounding environments…. etc. :-
1) what is the - source - of all these ' atoms ' , (material) from which , the first cells were assembled ??
2) if we could move back on the ' time line ' , when was the beginning of this world around us ? where , the accident of ' cell assembly ' occurred ?? and what was - before - this beginning ??
3) if we could move forever in any direction , in the universe , what will be at the end ? is it more space ? then we still in our world !!. is it blocked by some material ? then what is behind …??
hoping to find logical answers , in order to get better understanding to our existence.....
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RE: What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
October 12, 2013 at 7:23 am
(October 11, 2013 at 1:36 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: If you want to insist that the universe didn't build toward complex structure and forms over time and that it didn't need to be perfectly physically balanced and ordered in order to produce any of this then you're demonstrably wrong. You can't deny what we can actually see and observe. This isn't one of those kinds of things where if you close your eyes and wish hard enough it just might be true, if you want physical evidence it's under your nose.
Actually the universe is building towards heat death.
Quote:The heat death of the universe is a suggested ultimate fate of the universe in which the universe has diminished to a state of no thermodynamic free energy and therefore can no longer sustain processes that consume energy (including computation and life). Heat death does not imply any particular absolute temperature; it only requires that temperature differences or other processes may no longer be exploited to perform work. In the language of physics, this is when the universe reaches thermodynamic equilibrium (maximum entropy). The hypothesis of heat death stems from the ideas of William Thomson, 1st Baron Kelvin, who in the 1850s took the theory of heat as mechanical energy loss in nature (as embodied in the first two laws of thermodynamics) and extrapolated it to larger processes on a universal scale.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
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RE: What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
October 12, 2013 at 2:58 pm
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this obvious exaggeration of mocking reflects your internal deep worry.....!!.
sensible people usually participate in a discussion with logic reasons for refusing some opinion....
but using a funny reply ... does not prove that, the other's opinion is wrong
REPLY TO BrianSoddingBoru4 : after these useful English lessons....., where is the answer of the central question of this discussion ; " what is the source of all these ' atoms ' ," I MEAN MATERIAL", which constitute everything around us ??"
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RE: What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
October 13, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Quote:What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
The prologue.
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RE: What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
October 13, 2013 at 2:50 pm
(October 13, 2013 at 2:40 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Quote:What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
The prologue. And I'm pretty sure the author's notes came before that. And the title page, and the publisher's notes. Oh yeah, and a few pages of blurbs from famous authors and book reviewers.
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RE: What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
October 13, 2013 at 2:51 pm
(October 13, 2013 at 2:50 pm)Zazzy Wrote: (October 13, 2013 at 2:40 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: The prologue. And I'm pretty sure the author's notes came before that. And the title page, and the publisher's notes. Oh yeah, and a few pages of blurbs from famous authors and book reviewers.
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RE: What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
October 13, 2013 at 5:10 pm
darwin didn't have a hypothesis about the beginning, and you find yourself foolishly combining naturalism and the big bang as if charles darwin had the presence of mind in the 19th century to come up with it.
How do you know there was a beginning?
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RE: What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
October 13, 2013 at 5:18 pm
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Quote:REPLY TO BrianSoddingBoru4 : after these useful English lessons....., where is the answer of the central question of this discussion ; " what is the source of all these ' atoms ' ," I MEAN MATERIAL", which constitute everything around us ??"
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RE: What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
October 13, 2013 at 5:24 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 8:03 pm)HUMAN BRAIN Wrote: ****************************************************
I think that , Darwin hypothesis is a logic 'interpret' for the beginning and Evolution of all organists , and all objections to it were found to be weak . this hypothesis lead us to some questions to complete the whole picture; if the beginning was some 'molecules and atoms ' which combined together to constitute some biological cells ( by accident ) , and these cells started to multiply and produce different organists , and evolution occurred due to the " natural selection " and\or, due to the variations of the surrounding environments…. etc. :-
1) what is the - source - of all these ' atoms ' , (material) from which , the first cells were assembled ??
2) if we could move back on the ' time line ' , when was the beginning of this world around us ? where , the accident of ' cell assembly ' occurred ?? and what was - before - this beginning ??
3) if we could move forever in any direction , in the universe , what will be at the end ? is it more space ? then we still in our world !!. is it blocked by some material ? then what is behind …??
hoping to find logical answers , in order to get better understanding to our existence.....
Does having a gap in what we don't currently as a species have the answer to require us to project our own human qualities on the universe around us, when it is clear that the universe is NOT us or even remotely human?
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