You clowns are so easily convinced, Max. That's what comes from 1500 years of being sheep.
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How to Answer the Fool
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 (October 29, 2013 at 11:04 am)Minimalist Wrote: You clowns are so easily convinced, Max. That's what comes from 1500 years of being sheep. Oh, fucking christ, I thought he was being sarcastic! 
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!  (October 29, 2013 at 10:37 am)Esquilax Wrote:(October 29, 2013 at 10:33 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Circular logic based upon an unproven claim in a false dilemma. *yawn* Seen it. No wonder I'm an atheist, if this is their best evidence. I'll direct you to something that may bother you a bit more. I have a copy of The NIV Bible. In the outer margins, the company that makes these Bibles offers "Study Notes" that are intended to interpret the text for the lay Christian that is reading them. Any scripture is found saying something that is blatantly incompatible with the God of The Bible, a contradicting note in the margin is offered to reconcile it so that the reader can quickly swallow it and continue reading. I would find it insulting that somebody would even have the gull of writing these things with expectations that I'll just roll-over! Here's an example: Scripture: Exodus 21:20- If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished. But he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property. Note intended to smooth things over with the reader that has just been appalled at this evil rule given by God: The Bible doesn't approve of or endorse slavery but regulates it as a harsh reality in a fallen world. Christ did not come to start a social or political revolution to change the world from the outside. Rather he led a spiritual revolution to change people from the inside out. People's circumstances are less important than their relationship to God and their eternal salvation. Texas Sailor's Observation: This little gem of a scripture comes after God writes The Ten Commandments into stone. Why did God feel that slavery should take a back seat to the first 4? Were the things God wrote in the first 4 commandements a harsher reality that required God's immediate attention? Don't worhip any other Gods Don't make statues of any other Gods Don't say "God damn it" Don't work on Sundays The last one is don't be jealous, which I find particularly amusing since the first 2 of these rules punishable by death depict God's jealousy. Imagine how much easier it would have been to abolish slavery in the south if the idiots that wrote this just replaced the first one with Don't have slaves, and perhaps a lot of the rape going on at that very moment may have also been avoided if they thought God's second rule was Don't rape. No? Perhaps that's because the people that wrote this liked their slaves? Perhaps the PEOPLE that wrote this liked their rape? PERHAPS IT'S PEOPLE THAT WROTE THIS, AND NOT A GOD? No? I guess it's just a matter of faith then...JESUS CHRIST!!!  
Bruggencate's arguments have been destroyed.
The idea that so many people consider his arguments compelling is kind of sad. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. (October 29, 2013 at 11:27 am)Simon Moon Wrote: Bruggencate's arguments have been destroyed. Bruggencate has arguments?
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (October 29, 2013 at 11:06 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: I'll direct you to something that may bother you a bit more. Sadly, that's what I've come to expect from apologetics. It does piss me off, just in a resigned sort of way. Bruggencate is like that bible made flesh; he's all self congratulation and abuse of others. Drives me fucking nuts! 
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!  ![[Image: IpOb6KL.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com%2FIpOb6KL.jpg) They throw You in some stupid loop because they cannot accept the fact that some people (like me) are unsure of their knowledge, or knowledge itself. 
That, and the main purpose of the whole thing is to shuttle people to the "You can't be logical without God" argument.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
I know how to answer the fool.
"I can't believe you are convinced by this tripe."
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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