Not forgetting the con- by those in power- venience to control the population ensuring a well behaved slave pool.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
Looking for logic.
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Not forgetting the con- by those in power- venience to control the population ensuring a well behaved slave pool.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
Buddhism isn't all it's cracked up to be by the new age people.
Just adopt whatever philosophy you believe in, no need to buy the entire package. And there's certainly no point in agreeing with truth claims you can't prove or you don't know shit about. Like the existence of deities. I agree that you should read the bible if you're questioning catholic. This time, start from the beginning and question everything you read. You'll find that a lot of things make no sense whatsoever (hint: the flood).
I present for your consideration, George Carlin on Religion and God
There are almost innumerable debates on Youtube which you can choose from. Hitchens, Dawkins, Sam Harris and others Vs. representatives of a whole host of religions.
They are a good place to start and I think you will find some of the debates quite eye-opening. If you want to have some fun whilst learning at a lesser level Carlin is great as are others like Tim Minchin, Steven Fry, Jim Jefferies, Bill Maher, Ricky Gervais........all of whom provide subtle, and not so subtle insights as to why they are atheists.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
(November 9, 2013 at 7:41 pm)Ring0 Wrote: Right, I meant to add Catholic as well, will do. Thank you. I've been attending a Buddhist temple to experiment with religion. It is ok to study all religions from a strictly historical archeological sense, plus it is helpful to understand the theists arguments. But don't look to something as a void filler just to have a sense of awe or sense of community. Every religion is a human invention. It may create strength in numbers, but none of them are required in evolution to get to the point of reproduction. (November 9, 2013 at 7:32 pm)Ring0 Wrote: I am really trying to find logic in my religion, and I will believe proof over faith any day, even if it disproves my religion. This is why I left the Catholic church. I couldn't find any logic in it, or Christianity in general. I think what really cemented it for me was reading the gospels and realizing that Jesus predicted his return and the end of the world during the lives of those he was speaking to. So obviously he was wrong about that since 2000 years later we're still here. The thing which clinched it is thinking if the bible is wrong about that (as well as many, many other things) then why follow anything in it?
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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