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Why Isn't Saint Peter In Hell?
#11
RE: Why Isn't Saint Peter In Hell?
Peter was the mistress of Jesus. He denied Jesus because he was afraid of coming out of the closet. Jesus has a special place for Peter in heaven. That's why homosexuals don't get to go to heaven, because Jesus doesn't want competition.
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#12
RE: Why Isn't Saint Peter In Hell?
(November 13, 2013 at 11:38 pm)Ivy Wrote: Peter was the mistress of Jesus. He denied Jesus because he was afraid of coming out of the closet. Jesus has a special place for Peter in heaven. That's why homosexuals don't get to go to heaven, because Jesus doesn't want competition.

That makes perfect sense. Though I always find men who say they 'Love Jesus' really weird.

When I was a Christian saying it made me feel weird like I was Gay or something. How can I love a fella.

I can understand a Girl loving Jesus its natural Girl + Boy.
The bible said Boy + Boy is not natural so should we men really be 'Loving with all our heart mind and soul?'

I'd masturbate over God if she was a woman!
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#13
RE: Why Isn't Saint Peter In Hell?
I look forward to reading the apologist retort...
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#14
RE: Why Isn't Saint Peter In Hell?
He got some brownie points for being hung upside down. Jesus was all, "You're a crazy mofo, you know that? Get your ass in there!"

Now, while I remember always hearing that story I don't remember ever reading it once in the bible. Must have been in the deleted scenes.
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#15
RE: Why Isn't Saint Peter In Hell?
(November 12, 2013 at 8:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Jesus said, 'Whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.' Peter denied Jesus three times, therefore Jesus must have denied Peter. Thus:

1. Jesus was lying, or

2. Peter was lying, or

3. Peter is in Hell, or

4. The whole thing is just one of those made-up fables that no one caught during the proof-reading stage.

Which'll it be?

Boru

-Or "every sin can be forgiven except blaspheme of the Holy Spirit." In the end Peter accepted Christ therefore all other sins were forgiven. Jesus was speaking of those who die denying Christ.
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#16
RE: Why Isn't Saint Peter In Hell?
(November 14, 2013 at 12:39 pm)Drich Wrote:
(November 12, 2013 at 8:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Jesus said, 'Whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.' Peter denied Jesus three times, therefore Jesus must have denied Peter. Thus:

1. Jesus was lying, or

2. Peter was lying, or

3. Peter is in Hell, or

4. The whole thing is just one of those made-up fables that no one caught during the proof-reading stage.

Which'll it be?

Boru

-Or "every sin can be forgiven except blaspheme of the Holy Spirit." In the end Peter accepted Christ therefore all other sins were forgiven. Jesus was speaking of those who die denying Christ.

@Drich that is not what it means.
[quote]
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
[/qoute]

Was quite clearly speaking against the works that Jesus did not his Character which could indeed mean he is a liar!.

Simply put - If Jesus raised a dead man and it was actually from God then u said that it was from Gods Arch Enemy but in Job hes not Satan. Then Thats a No No.

Otherwise its free gain! lol. And another thing even though my interpretation is loose Its stronger than most other very shit arguements.
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#17
RE: Why Isn't Saint Peter In Hell?
I don't know.

The whole heaven he'll thing is kinda messed up. I think it's far more based in church control of the GU than in the bible.
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Why Isn't Saint Peter In Hell?
(November 14, 2013 at 8:35 am)ToriJ Wrote: He got some brownie points for being hung upside down. Jesus was all, "You're a crazy mofo, you know that? Get your ass in there!"

Now, while I remember always hearing that story I don't remember ever reading it once in the bible. Must have been in the deleted scenes.

It's a mere tradition....you know what "tradition" means in a religious context, right? BULLSHIT.

This is all that the probably pseudoepigraphic epistle "1 Clement" has to say on the subject.

Quote:1Clem 5:4
There was Peter who by reason of unrighteous jealousy endured not one not one but many labors, and thus having borne his testimony went to his appointed place of glory.

1Clem 5:5
By reason of jealousy and strife Paul by his example pointed out the
prize of patient endurance. After that he had been seven times in
bonds, had been driven into exile, had been stoned, had preached in
the East and in the West, he won the noble renown which was the
reward of his faith,

1Clem 5:6
having taught righteousness unto the whole world and having reached
the farthest bounds of the West; and when he had borne his testimony
before the rulers, so he departed from the world and went unto the
holy place, having been found a notable pattern of patient endurance.

Not even a suggestion that either of them were martyred...let alone crucified. Someone invented that bullshit story later on to jazz up the tale.
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