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I need a volunteer
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(January 1, 2014 at 10:40 pm)whateverist Wrote: I remember you writing about that. Didn't you get some alien parasite take up residence in your Mr. Johnson? Then it went hard for days and they had to stab it repreatedly to drain the blood away. If that isn't an NDE I don't know what is. I'd say your credentials to speak of NDE's are second to none.

That's painfully true; and I look forward to the nightmares returning on the memory Wink. I did very nearly die that time, but there was no NDE going on.

No, the experience I had was many years earlier, when I gashed my hand on a corned beef tin. Like I say, no gods deigned to pop in and say hi.
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From Yahoo Answers:
Question: Wrote:Is Hinduism and Buddhism any as dogmatic as Christianity, Judaism, and Islam?
Answer: Wrote:Between resurrection and reincarnation, between an afterlife and the cycle of life, death, and rebirth, between seeking the Kingdom of God and seeking enlightenment to escape the cycle, between immortality and annihilation, are these not dogmas?



1. You didn't provide your strongest case of an NDE, much less one that shows the things you claim occurred with certain NDEs. Failure to produce evidence strongly implies that the evidence you claimed exists does not exist. This suggests that you are the fraud here, not I.

2. How do you know NDEs are non-physical. You've claimed that NDEs are the evidence for the non-physicality of consciousness, so simply asserting that consciousness is non-physical would just be circular, claiming the non-physicality of consciousness proves the non-physicality of NDEs... which proves the non-physicality of consciousness... which proves NDEs...

You have to provide something other than either of these two claims as support for the idea that NDEs are non-physical. Providing a case of an NDE in which the consciousness acquired knowledge (not mere belief, but verifiable knowledge of things that could be demonstrated) which their physical bodies and, presumably physical minds, did not have access to would constitute evidence. You have not provided such a case. So far you've claimed such cases exist, but claims are like assholes, everybody's got one, and many of them stink.

3. You keep asserting that I'm a fake, yet when challenged to produce the signs that I am a fake, you simply assert it again without providing any signs. I feel confident that a poll of members here would indicate that the majority that have an opinion, would consider it more likely that you are the fake, and I the real deal, rather than the other way around. Care to put your money where your mouth is and show that people here don't consider me a more reputable Hindu master than you? Start a poll on it, or make more excuses and solidify your image as a fake.

4. I asked you where you learned Tantra and yoga. Again, no answer.

5. I asked you if you learned from P.R. Sarkar directly, or some other. Again, no answer.

6. I asked you to describe your tantric practice. Again, no answer.

You're showing more signs of being a fake than I am.


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The "non-physical world" sounds like a great place to stash crazy ideas that can't be proven. "It exists because you cannot ever detect it" is just perfect for those insane theories for which there is no evidence. And if you don't believe the outrageous and totally untestable claim, you're hopelessly hung up on "dogmas."

It's no wonder that enrico can keep these threads going for dozens of pages.
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(January 2, 2014 at 6:44 am)Tonus Wrote: The "non-physical world" sounds like a great place to stash crazy ideas that can't be proven. "It exists because you cannot ever detect it" is just perfect for those insane theories for which there is no evidence. And if you don't believe the outrageous and totally untestable claim, you're hopelessly hung up on "dogmas."

It's no wonder that enrico can keep these threads going for dozens of pages.

to be fair i think his brain is entirely in the non-physical realm.
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(January 1, 2014 at 4:28 am)enrico Wrote:
(December 30, 2013 at 2:17 pm)rasetsu Wrote: You deny that I am a yogini on even flimsier grounds of my not showing sufficient humility


I already told you that you are a fake.
Shell i tell you in a different language?


Quote:(as if you are the judge of that). Don't be a hypocrite. I'll show you mine if you show me yours.


Even a beginner in yoga would understand that you are a fake. Smile


Quote:I am a Hindu, just like you.


Hinduism is a religion and i make clear time and time again that i do not believe in religions as religions are based on dogmas.
Again you show your usual lack of intuition which again show your falsehood.


Quote:The only difference is, people take me seriously. You, they laugh at and scorn.


Real clowns make people laugh of course but i am not a real clown like you.
It is not my intention to make people laugh.
My intention is to laugh myself in seeing how some people are stuck in the corral of dogmas. Smile
You make me laugh at your stupidity and ignorance Big Grin
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(January 1, 2014 at 10:32 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(January 1, 2014 at 4:04 am)enrico Wrote: You guys pretend that NDE can be understood by physical science.

I for one am not pretending that, since I actually have had what you would call a NDE. Not only did I not have any divine or spiritual visions or whatnot, though I did emerge with a deeper understanding of what death is like and lost any fear of it I may have had, I fully understand that what caused the experience was completely physical.


You may find strange but i do believe you.
In fact it is all as i already said many times.
Anyone who build up a good relationship with anyone else will soon or later find that sentiment reciprocated.
On the other hand if you are not interested in building up a relationship with that person or entity then it is quite natural that that person or entity will not reciprocate.
As far as you are not interested in knowing God it is quite natural that in your NDE (if you ever had one) you will see or perceive absolutely NOTHING. Wink Shades

(January 2, 2014 at 6:44 am)Tonus Wrote: The "non-physical world" sounds like a great place to stash crazy ideas that can't be proven. "It exists because you cannot ever detect it" is just perfect for those insane theories for which there is no evidence. And if you don't believe the outrageous and totally untestable claim, you're hopelessly hung up on "dogmas."

It's no wonder that enrico can keep these threads going for dozens of pages.


Nothing really new in your analysis.
Everything goes accordingly the usual praxis or routine.
Whenever someone come up with something that goes against the norm then the masses shake their heads.
When the first man discover the fire i am sure other man thought that that was the work of devil.
The same people shook their heads when somebody said that the planet earth is not flat and is not the center of the universe.
The times change but the same idiots keep on shaking their heads every time someone else show something new.
On the other hand it is all natural.
In the past i also used to shake my head so i fully understand you. Confused Fall
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(January 3, 2014 at 8:24 am)enrico Wrote: The times change but the same idiots keep on shaking their heads every time someone else show something new.
But you're not showing us anything new. You're simply repeating claims that men have been making for centuries, with nothing to back them up aside from blind faith. Which is to say that "there is nothing new in your analysis."
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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(January 1, 2014 at 11:14 pm)rasetsu Wrote: 1. You didn't provide your strongest case of an NDE, much less one that shows the things you claim occurred with certain NDEs. Failure to produce evidence strongly implies that the evidence you claimed exists does not exist. This suggests that you are the fraud here, not I.


Or you did not read my previous posts or you read without taking any note of what i did write in either case it show your lack of knowledge.
I am not going to search for them and waste my time because of your stupidity. Confused Fall


Quote:2. How do you know NDEs are non-physical. You've claimed that NDEs are the evidence for the non-physicality of consciousness, so simply asserting that consciousness is non-physical would just be circular, claiming the non-physicality of consciousness proves the non-physicality of NDEs... which proves the non-physicality of consciousness... which proves NDEs...


Again, i already made several examples of how these NDE's could see places and see people doing things while out their bodies and these experiences are real as they where witness by people who where present in the hospital at that time.
I already mention the ........
http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Book-Near-...1571745475 .............but i guess you don't bother to read previous post before you come up with the usual stupid claims.


Quote:You have to provide something other than either of these two claims as support for the idea that NDEs are non-physical. Providing a case of an NDE in which the consciousness acquired knowledge (not mere belief, but verifiable knowledge of things that could be demonstrated) which their physical bodies and, presumably physical minds, did not have access to would constitute evidence. You have not provided such a case. So far you've claimed such cases exist, but claims are like assholes, everybody's got one, and many of them stink.


If you ever bother to read that book you will find verifiable references to indicate that these events really happened.
So stop asking the same question time and time again well before you assess the facts like a professional imbecile. Smile


Quote:3. You keep asserting that I'm a fake, yet when challenged to produce the signs that I am a fake, you simply assert it again without providing any signs. I feel confident that a poll of members here would indicate that the majority that have an opinion, would consider it more likely that you are the fake, and I the real deal, rather than the other way around. Care to put your money where your mouth is and show that people here don't consider me a more reputable Hindu master than you? Start a poll on it, or make more excuses and solidify your image as a fake.


I already explained you why you are a fake and a fraud.
1) A master would never boast what he-she is.
2) Hindu is a religion and has nothing to do with spirituality or yoga.
Religion are not reputable source of knowledge therefore you have nothing to do with knowledge.
3) A real knowledge person would express their thoughts without taking any tips from wikipedia.
4) You say that you achieved the union with Shakty.
Well that is a big deal.
Shakty does not swear like you nor boast her quality.


Quote:4. I asked you where you learned Tantra and yoga. Again, no answer.

Again you show your stupidity in asking this question as it is not important where i learn tantra yoga.
The teacher will be ready when the student is.
It does not really matter whether you learn here or there.
If the teacher will not come to you you will be attracted to him-her so the teaching will be given anyway. Cool Shades


Quote:5. I asked you if you learned from P.R. Sarkar directly, or some other. Again, no answer.


I did learned from one of his teacher but i was also lucky to have a personal meeting with him.


Quote:6. I asked you to describe your tantric practice. Again, no answer.


The practice is a spiritual relationship with the cosmic consciousness and require a personal mantra.
When in the future you will stop masturbating your brains and will stop jumping on other people like a mad monkey in order to know personal details then you will know how the system works. Smile



Quote:You're showing more signs of being a fake than I am.


Good lack girl. Smile
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Enrico, you've ignored this statement. I know you're trying to come up with excuses for every other fallacy you have, but I've conveniently posted this again for your convenience.

Please do not ignore this time:

Talk to someone that was dead (had a heart attack or something) and was brought back to life. After flashing through memories and going through that tunnel thing, usually there is nothing after that, just unconsciousness. Quit talking about near-death experiences. Ask people who have been dead, not almost dead.

Second, talk to medical researchers. Usually, there is an explanation. There are millions of possible explanations, yet you still pick one non-likely scenario that fits your beliefs. Just like that "Sword in the field" video.
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(January 3, 2014 at 9:34 am)Tonus Wrote:
(January 3, 2014 at 8:24 am)enrico Wrote: The times change but the same idiots keep on shaking their heads every time someone else show something new.
But you're not showing us anything new. You're simply repeating claims that men have been making for centuries, with nothing to back them up aside from blind faith. Which is to say that "there is nothing new in your analysis."


Spirituality is not something new really but it is new to those who never practice it.
Blind faith does not search for the truth on the other hand spirituality is a constant work to bring the knowledge within up to the surface.
It is with the practice that it is possible to know whether there is something behind this physical world or not but how would you know if you never bother to investigate by practicing? Cool Shades

(January 3, 2014 at 9:47 am)Severan Wrote: Enrico, you've ignored this statement. I know you're trying to come up with excuses for every other fallacy you have, but I've conveniently posted this again for your convenience.

Please do not ignore this time:

Talk to someone that was dead (had a heart attack or something) and was brought back to life. After flashing through memories and going through that tunnel thing, usually there is nothing after that, just unconsciousness. Quit talking about near-death experiences. Ask people who have been dead, not almost dead. Second, talk to medical researchers. Usually, there is an explanation. There are millions of possible explanations, yet you still pick one non-likely scenario that fits your beliefs. Just like that "Sword in the field" video.


Are you saying that people who were declared dead by a qualified doctor were not really dead? Smile
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