(January 1, 2014 at 2:52 am)Nightangel8212 Wrote: *Reads through the OP*
*Blinks slowly and tilts head to the side*
*Goes through the rest of the thread*
Ya know, before fstdt lost its forums, we had a guy who had been quoted on the main page come to the site to debate us. He had claimed to have battled Leviathan in his bathtub (no, I'm not joking). He claimed he could perform exorcisms through forums and several people volunteered. Of course, it was all bullshit, but he kept acting as if he'd proven something great to us, that he had exorcised a demon from one of the volunteers, even though the volunteer had stated flat out that absolutely nothing had happened.
In a way, this reminds me of that thread... except this one is much shorter... thankfully. I don't think my brain could handle reading enrico's posts for several hundred pages. As it is, I think I lost a huge chunk of my IQ. I was reminded of when the Nostalgia Critic reviewed the Digimon movie and his brain fell out of his ear with the opening theme song. It seriously felt like that to me. Let me make a few things clear. I am a Solitary Witch who believes in life after death, multiple deities, and even nature spirits. I have had my own personal experiences that have cemented my personal faith. But I'm not one to disregard physical evidence and science out of hand. And I am also willing to acknowledge that I have absolutely NO EVIDENCE for my beliefs being right, only my personal experiences. Personal experiences don't mean fuck all in science, which is why NDE/OBE accounts are NOT considered valid evidence of life after death to science. I'm not going to bother quoting Enrico since he pretty much repeated himself a zillion times already, and my headache doesn't want to go back through the thread and read through his piles of dog excrement to find the specific quote, but he said something along the lines of "Prove to me that life is finite." (And there went two more IQ points just typing out that sentence) Now... this is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. Even Mister I-Battled-Leviathan-In-My-Bathtub would say what the fuck to something like that! Physical death is 100% proven. I watched my grandmother die of cancer. My mother was at death's door a few years back. She was so close to death my father called in a Catholic Priest to give her her last rites. She managed to pull through the night, and the experimental treatments the doctors were using on her (thankfully) worked. (oops, did I just disprove his assertion that medical science doesn't lead to progress? I'd say pulling my mother from the BRINK OF DEATH FUCKING QUALIFIES!!) When my mother woke up, she didn't even believe that a month had gone by. She thought she'd just gone to sleep for the night and remembered absolutely nothing. Does this mean there most definitely is NOT life after death? Not in my book. After all, she was pumped full of so many different drugs, it could have made her unable to remember any NDE she might have had. I did have more in mind to say, but fuck it. Arguing with a fundy is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what moves you make, the pigeon will just knock over the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like it's victorious.

Amongst this pile of dung i choose two thoughts.
1) You guys pretend that NDE can be understood by physical science.
How can something physical enter the non physical arena and understand it?
Only idiots think this way.
2) Why my mum did not experience an NDE?
Why should everybody do experience it?
NDE is a God gift in order for that person to learn.
If that person need more hard work in order to sort out his-her problem then he-she will not experience anything.
It is like in life.
If the teacher will see that something will help the student then it will be given.
On the other hand if the teacher see no point in giving something that would help then the student will get nothing.

Since we seem to be playing some twisted mind games here...
Allow me to set the mood right for this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhSHXGM7kgE

(December 30, 2013 at 2:17 pm)rasetsu Wrote: You deny that I am a yogini on even flimsier grounds of my not showing sufficient humility

I already told you that you are a fake.
Shell i tell you in a different language?

Quote:(as if you are the judge of that). Don't be a hypocrite. I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

Even a beginner in yoga would understand that you are a fake.

Quote:I am a Hindu, just like you.

Hinduism is a religion and i make clear time and time again that i do not believe in religions as religions are based on dogmas.
Again you show your usual lack of intuition which again show your falsehood.

Quote:The only difference is, people take me seriously. You, they laugh at and scorn.

Real clowns make people laugh of course but i am not a real clown like you.
It is not my intention to make people laugh.
My intention is to laugh myself in seeing how some people are stuck in the corral of dogmas.

Yeah, Apo! How's it feel, being called a fake by a clown who believes that a street magician uses real magic and whose internal voice is apparently so embarrassed for him and his sub-childish fantasies that it makes him unconsciously condemn himself with his own words each and every time he posts?

(January 1, 2014 at 2:52 am)Nightangel8212 Wrote: I did have more in mind to say, but fuck it. Arguing with a fundy is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what moves you make, the pigeon will just knock over the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like it's victorious.

This is the absolute best description of conversing with swami enrico I've heard to date.

(January 1, 2014 at 4:04 am)enrico Wrote: Amongst this pile of dung i choose two thoughts.

Not having any of your own, it's not surprising you've got to piggyback on others.

Quote:1) You guys pretend that NDE can be understood by physical science.
How can something physical enter the non physical arena and understand it?

You would need to demonstrate that what the NDE expresses is non physical to begin with, something you have not even attempted to do so far. I'll hazard a guess that you'll continue to mistake unearned smugness as a demonstration in your reply post to me.

Quote:I already told you that you are a fake.
Shell i tell you in a different language?

Still not understanding that your petty little assertions aren't evidence, eh? Go fuck a cactus, enrico. Seriously.

A cactus is too weak for this level of stupidity and arrogance. I was thinking more along the lines of a railroad spike covered in barbed wire drenched in ghost pepper sauce.

(January 1, 2014 at 4:04 am)enrico Wrote: You guys pretend that NDE can be understood by physical science.

I for one am not pretending that, since I actually have had what you would call a NDE. Not only did I not have any divine or spiritual visions or whatnot, though I did emerge with a deeper understanding of what death is like and lost any fear of it I may have had, I fully understand that what caused the experience was completely physical.

(January 1, 2014 at 10:32 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(January 1, 2014 at 4:04 am)enrico Wrote: You guys pretend that NDE can be understood by physical science.

I for one am not pretending that, since I actually have had what you would call a NDE. Not only did I not have any divine or spiritual visions or whatnot, though I did emerge with a deeper understanding of what death is like and lost any fear of it I may have had, I fully understand that what caused the experience was completely physical.

I remember you writing about that. Didn't you get some alien parasite take up residence in your Mr. Johnson? Then it went hard for days and they had to stab it repreatedly to drain the blood away. If that isn't an NDE I don't know what is. I'd say your credentials to speak of NDE's are second to none.

(January 1, 2014 at 2:23 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Yeah, Apo! How's it feel, being called a fake by a clown who believes that a street magician uses real magic and whose internal voice is apparently so embarrassed for him and his sub-childish fantasies that it makes him unconsciously condemn himself with his own words each and every time he posts?

It's pathetically dull, is what it is.