A sword in a field.

[downbeatplumb]

It is called cognitive dissonance....

I'm aware of that .

You get my vote for the most self aware theist.

[Bad Writer]

I have cognitive dissonance too. I believe my daughter to be the smartest kid alive, though I have no proof to back up my claim; at the same time, I expect other such claims to be upheld by certain standards of evidence. So sue me. Jacob admits his ridiculous nature, we slap "cognitive dissonance" on it as a label, and we should all go home happy.

[Rayaan]

That I want to fix the problem is your inference.

So, if you don't actually want to fix the problem (of confirmation bias) at all, then you shouldn't have called it a "problem." There is no need to fix it, so why it call it a problem?

What I am Rayaan is aware of my own bias, and cherry picking and yes, inconsistency. I strongly suspect we all have such things in our thought processes.

I think it goes beyond just bias, cherry picking, and inconsistency. You blatantly contradict your own statements. You display a strong level of doublethink which I find is not as much inconsistent as it is disingenuous. And I'm sorry if that offends you but that is what I am honestly starting to think of you now. Just to show you one example of that, in this post, you wrote that people should not turn to religion/God just because they want to fill a gap in their knowledge (see your quote below):

"You shouldn't turn to religion just because you think you've found a hole in science. You can't find God in the gaps between knowledge."

Yet, in a different post, in contradiction to the above, you said that you do that yourself:

"In the same way, many of my religious beliefs are crude and slightly misleading shorthands for things I don't understand."


A little too inconsistent for me to believe that.

If you have something you want to say, by all means come out and say it.

What am I doing then?

Popping up in every other thread with a charge of hypocrisy is becoming tiresome and it seems you are skirting something.

You must be blowing your load too quickly if this is becoming tiresome for you already. Hmm. Well, perhaps you should get some new batteries for yourself then.

And I'm not skirting anything. I've been saying exactly what I think of you.

What is it you think I am?

Poe?


Maybe other members know this already, but I noticed that your posts are full of self-deprecating comments. You say things like (though not exactly your words) "Yeah man, I agree with you, the bible is a huge problem for me," "I have confirmation bias about my religion," "I'm a cherry picker," "I'm inconsistent," "I don't know anything," "I depend on my religion as a comfort blanket/crack pipe/happy-moist-joy feelings," "I have cognitive dissonance," "Ignorance is bliss," and so and so forth ... always in the same self-deprecative manner ... and it seems that you do it on purpose and you're good at it. This has probably become a secret art form for you over the years. And you do it persistently.

And to me, it seems that you're using this kind of persistent self-deprecation as a clever, psychological tactic of making everyone else identify with you and empathize with you even though they disagree with you, while at the same time using it as an effective cloak for concealing your dishonesty. I think that's what you are doing in this forum, basically.

[Jacob(smooth)]

I'll be honest, I read that last paragraph a few times and and still don't understand what you mean exactly. You think I'm an atheist, pretending to be a theist with doubts who is admitting to having those doubts in order to make people identify with the person I'm only pretending to be? Too convoluted for me at this time of night. I'll have to come back to it when I'm fresh.

Oh as to the science thing, there is a difference between using a spiritual model I know to be flawed for something outside of science (spirituality) and using a supernatural explanation for perfectly prosaic things which science has simply not got around to yet. The former is more akin to philosophy. What makes lightning and how did life begin are different sorts of questions to what does love mean to me and is the golden rule internally consistent. I have religious beliefs for things I don't understand in an abstract sense, not in a specific empirical sense. I don't understand how paracetamol works, but I don't feel the need to apply a supernatural explanation for it.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Regarding all the back-and-forthing in this thread, I would like to take this opportunity to say that, even in dowdy clothes, with her face and hair mussed, and in the middle of a panic attack, Milla Jovovich is a slammin' hottie.

I hope this helps in resolving any disputes.

Boru

[Tonus]

So Jacob(Smooth) is VinnyG's Tyler Durden, is what Rayaan is trying to say.

[downbeatplumb]

Regarding all the back-and-forthing in this thread, I would like to take this opportunity to say that, even in dowdy clothes, with her face and hair mussed, and in the middle of a panic attack, Milla Jovovich is a slammin' hottie.

We have very different tastes in women.

She looked ok in Zoolander and that is as far as it goes for me.

[Sejanus]

Regarding all the back-and-forthing in this thread, I would like to take this opportunity to say that, even in dowdy clothes, with her face and hair mussed, and in the middle of a panic attack, Milla Jovovich is a slammin' hottie.

I hope this helps in resolving any disputes.

Boru

Have to disagree with you there. The only people I imagine would find her attractive here are priests. If you catch my drift.

[downbeatplumb]

Regarding all the back-and-forthing in this thread, I would like to take this opportunity to say that, even in dowdy clothes, with her face and hair mussed, and in the middle of a panic attack, Milla Jovovich is a slammin' hottie.

I hope this helps in resolving any disputes.

Boru

Have to disagree with you there. The only people I imagine would find her attractive here are priests. If you catch my drift.

There is something boyish about her.

[Jacob(smooth)]

10 Catholic priests die in a minibus crash. When they reach the pearly gates st Paul shakes his head and says "anyone who abused their position of trust can turn around and bog off"

9 turn to go, St Paul shouts after them "and take this deaf Motherfucker with you!