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My view of a god
February 17, 2014 at 2:44 pm
I have been thinking that if there is a God, it could be the universe and thus we are 'god', well according to my understanding of logic (though I think its faulty and and corrections are most welcome).
Now when I say God, I mean a entity that may or may not be conscious or self aware and has powers (A term i use very loosely) to influence the universe/it self.
This would mean that it could know everything that there is currently to know and could know that you know because it is you and s everywere as it is everything but would not be all powerful as it it can not break the laws that 'it' has set.
Now I want you to tear this apart so my understand of logic and the universe and what every else is solid. As if my 'logic' can be distoryed it should be to I can gain a more soild understanding. As if you don't I am going to be going around in circles forever with this.
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RE: My view of a god
February 17, 2014 at 2:48 pm
Big "if"
Nothing to support it.
Unlikely.
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RE: My view of a god
February 17, 2014 at 3:17 pm
People have the power to influence the universe. The universe itself does not.
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RE: My view of a god
February 17, 2014 at 3:43 pm
Why name it "god" do u believe this entity is persnl.. ?
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RE: My view of a god
February 17, 2014 at 4:11 pm
So your god is limited to the physically existing universe. It has the power that the universe has, natural and human. It carries at least human knowledge, that being part of the universe.
Your god adds nothing to reality/is superfluous.
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RE: My view of a god
February 17, 2014 at 5:26 pm
(February 17, 2014 at 3:43 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Why name it "god" do u believe this entity is persnl.. ?
I called it 'god' because I did not know what else to call it,
and the entity may be part of us, but does not care/concerned (like a cell in our body).
Truth be told, I don't know what to believe about 'god', just all religions are complete bullshit.
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Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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RE: My view of a god
February 17, 2014 at 6:43 pm
The problem with the term "god" is that it is an identity, subject to transference and projection. Identity is built from exclusion; the universe, by definition, inclusion.
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RE: My view of a god
February 18, 2014 at 8:50 pm
Hi Gooders,
So you'd believe in some kind of pantheistic/panentheistic god(s)?
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RE: My view of a god
February 18, 2014 at 9:08 pm
Sounds like plain old deism to me.
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RE: My view of a god
February 18, 2014 at 10:29 pm
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(February 18, 2014 at 8:50 pm)Shep Wrote: Hi Gooders,
So you'd believe in some kind of pantheistic/panentheistic god(s)?
I don't get quite those meanings, but I am unsure of its existence, so I believe that either there is no god or god is the universe and we are part of it, whether it knows and/or cares were there or not I have no clue.
(February 17, 2014 at 6:43 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: The problem with the term "god" is that it is an identity, subject to transference and projection. Identity is built from exclusion; the universe, by definition, inclusion.
I see what you mean, but I have no better word for it.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
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Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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