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RE: Moral Dilemma
February 17, 2014 at 11:37 pm
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(February 17, 2014 at 11:00 pm)Rahul Wrote: This is easy. I'd use my super strength to break out of the chamber, give the foul villian a thorough thrashing, and hand him over to the proper authorities. Then we'd all go for ice cream. That is not an option.
(February 17, 2014 at 10:59 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (February 17, 2014 at 9:14 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: So which choice would you chose?
You couldn't figure that out from the context of my reply?
I would not commit an unjustified act of violence upon another. I would not rape the girl. I would, I'd do anything to save someone I really loved from being tortured.
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RE: Moral Dilemma
February 17, 2014 at 11:58 pm
(February 17, 2014 at 11:37 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: (February 17, 2014 at 10:59 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You couldn't figure that out from the context of my reply?
I would not commit an unjustified act of violence upon another. I would not rape the girl. I would, I'd do anything to save someone I really loved from being tortured.
You would trust that would prevent it from happening? I would not sacrifice values I hold dear and put my trust in the hands of an obvious psychopath
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RE: Moral Dilemma
February 18, 2014 at 12:28 am
I can't help but suspect this has a mirror image dilemma relating to the Christian notion of everlasting punishment and Pascal's wager.
There's an asymmetry in that you're weighing the cost of a moral obligation, which is essentially infinite (your loved one's torture), against the cost of violating a finite costing, but essential moral duty. Kant talks of both types as being part of a total moral understanding.
I'd probably violate the young man. But then, I'm amoral and horny.
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RE: Moral Dilemma
February 18, 2014 at 1:13 am
(February 17, 2014 at 10:06 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: (February 17, 2014 at 9:47 pm)Cinjin Wrote: This is too absurd a premise to dignify with an answer.
This whole ridiculous scenario has the stink of a sociopath attempting to gain masturbatory fodder for his own twisted rape fantasy. I didn't come up with it.
Also rape fantasies don't make you a psychopath.
Yeah, there's another problem. I'm guessing about 25% of men would see this situation as a justification for GETTING to rape a 14 year-old girl. And I'm giving 74% of men a benefit of the doubt that they probably don't deserve.
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RE: Moral Dilemma
February 18, 2014 at 1:29 am
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? 
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RE: Moral Dilemma
February 18, 2014 at 3:22 am
Jacob, about that hypnotists book you have... I think I need to know it well... just in case something like this happens to me.
Hypnotize the sick SOB and get everyone out safely.
Torture means what?
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RE: Moral Dilemma
February 18, 2014 at 4:17 am
I wouldn't rape the girl but the torture would torture me to the point my animal self took over. Then I'd rape the girl.
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RE: Moral Dilemma
February 18, 2014 at 8:53 am
Am...Am I a rapist now?
I feel dirty.
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RE: Moral Dilemma
February 18, 2014 at 10:33 am
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(February 18, 2014 at 3:22 am)pocaracas Wrote: Jacob, about that hypnotists book you have... I think I need to know it well... just in case something like this happens to me.
Hypnotize the sick SOB and get everyone out safely.
Torture means what? Torture means sterilized needles under the fingernail, electric shocks in all most sensitive places, denailing, waterboarding, beating, light burning, cutting. Your loved one would be permanently crippled, but not dead.
Also you never actually get to see the psycho who kidnapped you. He gets thugs to knock you out & you wake up in the room.
(February 18, 2014 at 4:17 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I wouldn't rape the girl but the torture would torture me to the point my animal self took over. Then I'd rape the girl. He is not torturing you he is torturing the person you love most.
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RE: Moral Dilemma
February 18, 2014 at 10:55 am
(February 18, 2014 at 10:33 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: (February 18, 2014 at 3:22 am)pocaracas Wrote: Torture means what? Torture means sterilized needles under the fingernail, electric shocks in all most sensitive places, denailing, waterboarding, beating, light burning, cutting. Your loved one would be permanently crippled, but not dead.
Also you never actually get to see the psycho who kidnapped you. He gets thugs to knock you out & you wake up in the room.
So... there would be permanent damage done to the loved one...
Contrasting with not so permanent psychological damage done to the other girl...
Not a fair proposition, then...
Also, how would I come to know that I had to drill the girl?
How long would I have available to... coax her until the actual torturing began?
Details, details...
What sort of imprisonment was that?
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