| Poll: Which is your preferred web browser? This poll is closed. |
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| Chrome | 7 | 28.00% | |
| Firefox | 12 | 48.00% | |
| Internet Explorer | 1 | 4.00% | |
| Opera | 3 | 12.00% | |
| Safari | 2 | 8.00% | |
| Other | 0 | 0% | |
| Total | 25 vote(s) | 100% | |
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Which web browser do you use?
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 (December 19, 2009 at 6:47 pm)Tiberius Wrote: By stable what do you mean? I've never had many crashes with Chrome (even with the dev version), and in any case, if one tab crashes, none of the others do. That's a feature Firefox (or any other browser) simply doesn't have yet. I'd second that, 4.0.249 is super stable for me, i've had the entire browser die about 3 times in a year - you get the odd process on a page that will kill the tab, but everything else just keeps working.
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
Yeah I've had the whole browser hang several times - never seen the tabbed process kick in at all. At one point it just wouldn't load sites. At that point I went back to FF. That plus the speed is cancelled out by the inability to block ad's. I notice the latest beta has ad blocking, so I'm giving it another chance. I did try another build which included adblocking for a while but tired of that too. I need to switch proxies often as well, and I've found a beta add in for that.
Add in's seem slow in coming. Chrome being based on the Webkit/ Safari engine and Apple's involvement seem undesirable. As does Google's interest in selling advertising. (December 19, 2009 at 8:30 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Yeah I've had the whole browser hang several times - never seen the tabbed process kick in at all. At one point it just wouldn't load sites. At that point I went back to FF. That plus the speed is cancelled out by the inability to block ad's. I notice the latest beta has ad blocking, so I'm giving it another chance. I did try another build which included adblocking for a while but tired of that too. I need to switch proxies often as well, and I've found a beta add in for that. It's an open source project derived from KHTML in KDE, Google and Apple have just chosen to support it - throw loads of time and money into it while keeping it locked into the GPL so neither of them has any control over the code. Their involvement is anything but undesirable, it's responsible for the growth of the entire platform. And yeah google sell ads, so what? I'd gladly put up with a few ads considering every free google product i use on a daily basis.
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Which web browser do you use?
December 19, 2009 at 8:56 pm
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2009 at 8:59 pm by fr0d0.)
Well Apple chose to release the code back to GPL which was nice of them. Yeah I don't mind the business model but I do mind the removal of choice. If I could only choose no ads through FF then that would be my choice. (I'm not totally anti commercialism but object to paying for bandwidth to mindless advertising)
(December 19, 2009 at 8:56 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Well Apple chose to release the code back to GPL which was nice of them. Yeah I don't mind the business model but I do mind the removal of choice. If I could only choose no ads through FF then that would be my choice. It wasn't nice of them, it's a legal requirement when you branch from an existing OSS project.
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Which web browser do you use?
December 19, 2009 at 9:01 pm
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2009 at 9:02 pm by fr0d0.)
"At one point KHTML developers said they were unlikely to accept Apple's changes and claimed the relationship between the two groups was a "bitter failure".[7] Apple submitted their changes in large patches that contained a great number of changes with inadequate documentation, often to do with future feature additions. Thus, these patches were difficult for the KDE developers to integrate back into KHTML. Furthermore, Apple had demanded developers to sign nondisclosure agreements before looking at Apple's source code and even then they were unable to access Apple's bug database.[8]
During the publicized 'divorce' period, KDE developer Kurt Pfeifle (pipitas) posted an article claiming KHTML developers had managed to backport many (but not all) Safari improvements from WebCore to KHTML, and they always appreciated the improvements coming from Apple and still do so. The article also noted Apple had begun to contact KHTML developers about discussing how to improve the mutual relationship and ways of future cooperation.[9] Since the story of the fork appeared in news, Apple has released changes of the source code of its KHTML fork in a CVS repository.[10] Since the transfer of the sourcecode into a public CVS repository, Apple and KHTML developers have had increasing collaboration. Many KHTML developers have become reviewers and submitters for Apple's WebKit SVN repository. The WebKit team had also reversed many Apple-specific changes in the original WebKit code base and implemented platform-specific abstraction layers to make committing the core rendering code to other platforms significantly easier.[11]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit#Controversy (December 19, 2009 at 9:01 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: "At one point KHTML developers said they were unlikely to accept Apple's changes and claimed the relationship between the two groups was a "bitter failure".[7] Apple submitted their changes in large patches that contained a great number of changes with inadequate documentation, often to do with future feature additions. Thus, these patches were difficult for the KDE developers to integrate back into KHTML. Furthermore, Apple had demanded developers to sign nondisclosure agreements before looking at Apple's source code and even then they were unable to access Apple's bug database.[8]  hock:Fucking wankers  At least google is substantially better at doing OSS
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There is an extension to Chrome which disables ads now!
(December 19, 2009 at 9:14 pm)Tiberius Wrote: There is an extension to Chrome which disables ads now! There are several, Ad Sweep and Ad Block being the main two.
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