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This is getting old
#31
RE: This is getting old
(April 4, 2014 at 5:48 pm)tor Wrote: So there is something real which you can see but the rest of us cannot? Well shit.
IKR? Confused Fall
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#32
RE: This is getting old
(April 4, 2014 at 5:51 pm)ShaMan Wrote:
(April 4, 2014 at 5:48 pm)tor Wrote: So there is something real which you can see but the rest of us cannot? Well shit.
IKR? Confused Fall

This soul stuff you talk about is just your imagination.
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#33
RE: This is getting old
(April 4, 2014 at 6:41 pm)tor Wrote:
(April 4, 2014 at 5:51 pm)ShaMan Wrote: IKR? Confused Fall

This soul stuff you talk about is just your imagination.
I know that's what you believe, and just as I will not attempt to change your beliefs, so I will not have mine changed by another. I won't tell you that you're wrong - I see both realms. In the physical realm logic demands that my beliefs are pure imagination. In the spiritual realm imagination becomes reality. I don't expect you to understand.
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#34
RE: This is getting old
(April 4, 2014 at 3:53 pm)tor Wrote: I was talking to a theist today and he brought up argument from design, first cause and argument from ignorance.
I debunked them and he said he doesn't give a fuck he will be a theist anyway also he said atheists suck.
Same arguments for 10 billion times. Same "I don't care I will believe anyway". Same "atheists suck".
Again and again and again. It's like I'm watching same movie over and over.
Same shit that was 1 year ago. 5 years ago. 10 years ago. No difference whatsoever.

Why is there no progress?

The better question would be why do you see it as 'progress'?

I'm not aware the human race has set itself any targets regarding these issues.

MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci

"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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#35
RE: This is getting old
(April 4, 2014 at 3:53 pm)tor Wrote: I was talking to a theist today and he brought up argument from design, first cause and argument from ignorance.
I debunked them and he said he doesn't give a fuck he will be a theist anyway also he said atheists suck.
Same arguments for 10 billion times. Same "I don't care I will believe anyway". Same "atheists suck".
Again and again and again. It's like I'm watching same movie over and over.
Same shit that was 1 year ago. 5 years ago. 10 years ago. No difference whatsoever.

Why is there no progress?

Just tell the other person that you believe in Zeus, Odin, or some other deity like Baal. And then convert him to that belief.
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#36
RE: This is getting old
(April 4, 2014 at 4:38 pm)tor Wrote: Well kalam was invented 500 years ago or so.
So there was at least SOMETHING new 500 years ago. In science there is constantly something new. Theory of relativity for instance was discovered some 100 years ago. Puancare conjecture in math was solved in 1982.
But in theology there is absolutely nothing. Seems like they run out of ideas some 400 years ago.

The Poincaré conjecture wasn't proven until 2003, but the point is valid.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#37
RE: This is getting old
(April 4, 2014 at 3:53 pm)tor Wrote: I was talking to a theist today and he brought up argument from design, first cause and argument from ignorance.
I debunked them and he said he doesn't give a fuck he will be a theist anyway also he said atheists suck.
Same arguments for 10 billion times. Same "I don't care I will believe anyway". Same "atheists suck".
Again and again and again. It's like I'm watching same movie over and over.
Same shit that was 1 year ago. 5 years ago. 10 years ago. No difference whatsoever.

Why is there no progress?

And yet when I ask you for an original thought you can't come up with anything

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#38
RE: This is getting old
(April 5, 2014 at 11:02 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(April 4, 2014 at 3:53 pm)tor Wrote: I was talking to a theist today and he brought up argument from design, first cause and argument from ignorance.
I debunked them and he said he doesn't give a fuck he will be a theist anyway also he said atheists suck.
Same arguments for 10 billion times. Same "I don't care I will believe anyway". Same "atheists suck".
Again and again and again. It's like I'm watching same movie over and over.
Same shit that was 1 year ago. 5 years ago. 10 years ago. No difference whatsoever.

Why is there no progress?

And yet when I ask you for an original thought you can't come up with anything

[Image: pot-and-kettke.jpg]

I am not the only genius on the planet remember?
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#39
This is getting old
(April 5, 2014 at 11:02 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(April 4, 2014 at 3:53 pm)tor Wrote: I was talking to a theist today and he brought up argument from design, first cause and argument from ignorance.
I debunked them and he said he doesn't give a fuck he will be a theist anyway also he said atheists suck.
Same arguments for 10 billion times. Same "I don't care I will believe anyway". Same "atheists suck".
Again and again and again. It's like I'm watching same movie over and over.
Same shit that was 1 year ago. 5 years ago. 10 years ago. No difference whatsoever.

Why is there no progress?

And yet when I ask you for an original thought you can't come up with anything

[Image: pot-and-kettke.jpg]

When people have refuted the same arguments and claims for 2000 years, there's not much new to say.

Unless you have something new to contribute.
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#40
RE: This is getting old
(April 5, 2014 at 11:23 am)tor Wrote: I am not the only genius on the planet remember?

Yes I remember... you can't help it if your genius ideas have all already been said... Thinking
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