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Can someone verify this? Thx
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RE: Can someone verify this? Thx
(May 9, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(May 9, 2014 at 3:05 pm)rasetsu Wrote: The rotational speed at the equator, at its highest point, is closer to 465 meters per second, not 22 million meters per second, as you state. Though the results would still be bad.
I was thinking of the earth stopping in its orbit, which if iirc, wouldve had to happen for the judges account to be accurate. Even if your right though, you still get sent flying.

Actually, it's 2 Kings, which according to the legend seems to imply that the earth reversed in its rotation 10 degrees in the span of seconds. By my calculation, that's about a million meters in however many seconds it took for those at the surface of the equator.
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RE: Can someone verify this? Thx
(May 9, 2014 at 5:24 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(May 9, 2014 at 5:11 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: Every molecule recieves the same degree of force in the same direction (relative to the rotational axis, of course) such that relative motion is unchanged.

God sure went through a lot of trouble to stop the Earth's rotation. Why didn't he just rain down some fire and brimstone to end the battle more quickly?

Well considering deceleration like that would take hours if not days during which the sun would move notably, not mentioning the reacceleration afterwards. We also lack records from any other developed civilization at the time, which depended on the sun for their livelihood.

Indeed, I would have expected other cultures to have recorded this event too.

Apparently he stalled the sun for a while.
Joshua 10 KJV Wrote:12 Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.

13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

This would screw with the internal clocks of tons of organisms.
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1999...ock24.html

Yet The Bible seems to be their only source mentioning the day the sun stood still. Nocturnal animals would be rumaging about during the day, and diurnal animals would be falling asleep away from their nests, and yet no other culture recorded this event?
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(May 9, 2014 at 6:44 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: This would screw with the internal clocks of tons of organisms.
If the Earth stopped spinning, wouldn't it become a big centrifuge? That would screw with a lot more than just our inner ears!
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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(May 9, 2014 at 2:46 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: If the earth stopped suddenly as described in the book of judges, everything on the earth would've been sent flying into space or smashed into the ground at 22000 km/s. In other words everything would die instantly.

You ignorant heathen, it's magic. And don't you forget it. Angry
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The laws of inertia apply and people and mountains would go flying. Inertial dampeners (as in Star Trek ships) were 'invented' to prevent people going splatt every time the ship accelerated or decelerated.

But remember, not all Christians take the bible literally - at least not the smarter ones. We call the one's that take holy scripture literally, fundamentalists. There are fewer of those fundamentalists here in England. You Yanks can keep them! The other sort can live with the idea of evolution - heck, even the Pope has recently come out and said evolution is true (although he has the caveat that God was responsible). Miracles break the rules of science and we have never had an example of a miracle being objectively proven. So I think I'll do without God. He is superfluous to any rational explanation of events. And if we don't know something, we are honest enough to say we don't know yet, but our past experience as humans explaining 'mysteries' reassures us that one day we will be able to explain the some of the things that are as yet unknown or unexplained.
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RE: Can someone verify this? Thx
(May 9, 2014 at 5:55 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
(May 9, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I was thinking of the earth stopping in its orbit, which if iirc, wouldve had to happen for the judges account to be accurate. Even if your right though, you still get sent flying.

Actually, it's 2 Kings, which according to the legend seems to imply that the earth reversed in its rotation 10 degrees in the span of seconds. By my calculation, that's about a million meters in however many seconds it took for those at the surface of the equator.

I was actually thinking of the story of jericho.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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