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Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
May 30, 2014 at 11:41 pm
(This post was last modified: May 30, 2014 at 11:43 pm by Bob Kelso.)
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyath...t-stop-me/
Quote:Last Sunday, Lucas attended the Metropolitan Community Church in Palm Beach County, Florida, where she heard pastor Lea Brown hold forth on the significance of the Abraham-and-Isaac story.
Quote:Lucas is accused of … trying to kill the two young children she was helping to raise, but she wrote in a suicide note that God didn’t step in and stop her, at least in the case of the 2-year-old girl. Lucas’ own suicide attempt failed. Police reportedly found Lucas’ message (PDF) typed on a computer in the home. …
[A]ccording to police, Lucas convinced the [10-year-old] boy to take pills to “make him grow faster.” He then laid down on his bed due to feelings of dizziness. The boy then reportedly woke up to find Lucas passed out on the bed near him. Traces of benzodiazepine, an anti-anxiety medication, were later found in the boy’s urine.
However, investigators said, the girl refused to take the pills from Lucas. After the boy woke up and looked for her, he found the bathroom door locked. He was able to force it open with a knife, but then found his sister “submerged in the bathtub.” Despite his calling paramedics, the girl was pronounced dead at the scene.
Of course the pastor merely asks for prayers, and makes a cliche remark over "one more angel in heaven', and unsurprisingly no mention of even a modicum of responsibility laying (lying?) with Christian culture.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
May 30, 2014 at 11:51 pm
For those unfamiliar: Metropolitan Community Church is the denomination started by Rev. Troy Perry for gays, lesbians, transgenders, and questioning individuals.
[Disclaimer: in the last 30 years I have attended more MCC services than any other, probably a total of 3 or 4 times]
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
May 31, 2014 at 8:13 pm
Yeah. Then there's the stories of murders committed by people after watching violent movies and hardcore sadistic porn movies or those who committed murder after watching a few chick flicks.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
May 31, 2014 at 8:17 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 8:13 pm)Lek Wrote: Yeah. Then there's the stories of murders committed by people after watching violent movies and hardcore sadistic porn movies or those who committed murder after watching a few chick flicks.
Too bad none of those things claim moral authority. Eh, Lek? Then you might have a valid point.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
May 31, 2014 at 8:25 pm
Quote: those who committed murder after watching a few chick flicks.
My wife made me watch one once....and I did want to kill the director.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
May 31, 2014 at 8:28 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 8:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote: those who committed murder after watching a few chick flicks.
My wife made me watch one once....and I did want to kill the director.
A natural response.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
May 31, 2014 at 8:28 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 8:13 pm)Lek Wrote: Yeah. Then there's the stories of murders committed by people after watching violent movies and hardcore sadistic porn movies or those who committed murder after watching a few chick flicks.
That is the same bad doge I get from gun nutters, "Other bad shit happens so lets not do anything about this shit".
Holy books are weapons and religion is poison. If that family had gotten professional help instead of listening to a preacher, shit like that wouldn't happen. Just like if the Koran had not been written 19 hijackers would not have felt it was their duty to defend Allah.
"Guns don't kill people, people kill people", right, but guns make it much easier.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
May 31, 2014 at 8:40 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 8:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote: those who committed murder after watching a few chick flicks.
My wife made me watch one once....and I did want to kill the director.
Watch out Minimalist. We're agreeing on more and more things.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
May 31, 2014 at 8:56 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 8:13 pm)Lek Wrote: Yeah. Then there's the stories of murders committed by people after watching violent movies and hardcore sadistic porn movies or those who committed murder after watching a few chick flicks.
So why didn't your god stop her then?
It's almost like he doesn't exist or something.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
May 31, 2014 at 9:01 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 8:56 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: (May 31, 2014 at 8:13 pm)Lek Wrote: Yeah. Then there's the stories of murders committed by people after watching violent movies and hardcore sadistic porn movies or those who committed murder after watching a few chick flicks.
So why didn't your god stop her then?
It's almost like he doesn't exist or something.
I don't know why he didn't stop her. Are you saying that if he didn't stop her he shouldn't exist. For God to exist does he have to control our every move? Why can't he let us make decisions for ourselves?
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