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July 4, 2014 at 2:09 am (This post was last modified: July 4, 2014 at 2:20 am by Muslim Atheism.)
(July 4, 2014 at 1:21 am)Losty Wrote: I don't think atheism is about anything...
Yes, it is perfectly match dogma. .
(July 4, 2014 at 12:55 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: What characterizes the doctrine (or dogma) of atheism is not a discovery that there is no "God", but a refusal to acknowledge every kind of parent (or parent-like authority), including (therefore) the Parental "God" of childish "religion".
July 4, 2014 at 2:49 am (This post was last modified: July 4, 2014 at 2:57 am by Losty.)
(July 4, 2014 at 2:09 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote:
(July 4, 2014 at 1:21 am)Losty Wrote: I don't think atheism is about anything...
Yes, it is perfectly match dogma. .
(July 4, 2014 at 12:55 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: What characterizes the doctrine (or dogma) of atheism is not a discovery that there is no "God", but a refusal to acknowledge every kind of parent (or parent-like authority), including (therefore) the Parental "God" of childish "religion".
What does that even mean???
(July 4, 2014 at 12:55 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: I quite agree, and maybe others may comment on this . . .
Atheism is the ultimate form of denial of the Parental "God". Atheism is not founded on real observation of the ultimate facts of the universe. Rather, it is a kind of adolescent development of the human species.
What characterizes the doctrine (or dogma) of atheism is not a discovery that there is no "God", but a refusal to acknowledge every kind of parent (or parent-like authority), including (therefore) the Parental "God" of childish "religion".
— from "The Parental Deity and The One To Be Realized"
Atheism (or the conception that no "Creator-God" — or any other Greater Reality — exists) has always opposed theism (or "God-religion"). Nevertheless, atheistic ideas are the product of the same fundamental egoic consciousness that otherwise produces theistic (or conventional "religious") ideas.
Atheism is the product of the ego (or the phenomenal "self", grounded in elemental perception), and so also is theism. Atheism, like exoteric "God-religion", extends itself only into the domain of the first three stages of life — whereas esoteric "God-religion" provides a means for entering, mystically and Spiritually, into the developmental processes of the fourth stage of life and the fifth stage of life.
Atheism regularly proposes a "logic" of life that has its own dogmatic features. It does not propose a "God"-idea but, instead, founds itself on and in the perceptual and phenomenal mind alone.
Atheism concedes only a universal and ultimately indifferent (or merely lawful) cosmic Nature (not a "God") — and, so, there is no need to create a "religious creation-myth" to account for suffering. (And atheistic thinkers thus generally confine themselves to constructing a cosmology, based on material observations alone, that merely accounts for the apparent workings of the conditionally manifested events of cosmic Nature.)
Indeed, just as conventional "God-religion" (or conventional theism) arises to account for suffering, atheism arises on the basis of the unreserved acknowledgment of suffering. And, if there is no idea of "God", there is no idea of the human being as "creature" (or, in other words, the human being as the bearer of an immortal, or "God-like", "inner" part). Nor is there any need to interpret unfortunate or painful events as the "effects" of "Evil".
Therefore, the atheistic "point of view" is characterized by the trend of mind called "realism", just as the conventional "religious" (or theistic) "point of view" is characterized by the trend of mind called "idealism" — but both atheism and theism arise on the basis of the "self"-contraction (or the ego of phenomenal "self"-consciousness), rather than on the basis of direct Intuition of the Real Self-Nature, Self-Condition, and Self-State That is Prior to separate "self" and its conventions of perception and thought.
The realistic (or atheistic) view is just as much the bearer of a myth (or a merely conceptual interpretation of the "world") as is the conventional "religious" (or theistic) view. Atheism (or conventional realism) is a state of mind which is based in the phenomenal "self" and which seeks the ultimate protection, nourishment, pleasure, and preservation of the phenomenal "self" (at least in this "world" and, if there should be an after-life, then also in any other "world").
Therefore, atheism (or conventional realism) is simply a philosophical alternative to theism (or conventional "God-religion"), based on the same principle and consciousness (which is the phenomenal ego), and seeking (by alternative means) to fulfill the conditionally manifested "self" and relieve it of its suffering.
Listen, I don't care for your freaking copypasta crap. Atheism has no dogma. None. There is no such thing as atheistic ideas. Please respond to this in your own words.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
It means both are equally the same and have joined the club of "Parental Deity", one follow and the other rejects, everything . . .but both will live as a child, no true self discovery.
and. . . what else to explain, it is so clear. . . .
Quote:Atheism is the ultimate form of denial of the Parental "God". Atheism is not founded on real observation of the ultimate facts(ie. illusion of self) of the universe.
(July 4, 2014 at 3:21 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: It means both are equally the same and have joined the club of "Parental Deity", one follow and the other rejects, everything . . .but both will live as a child, no true self discovery.
and. . . what else to explain, it is so clear. . . .
Quote:Atheism is the ultimate form of denial of the Parental "God". Atheism is not founded on real observation of the ultimate facts(ie. illusion of self) of the universe.
Do you even know how to think or is copypasta your only function?
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
(June 23, 2014 at 11:20 pm)JuliaL Wrote: As God, would you please fix
I can't. . . because it said "no god".
You cannot be God if there is no god. You cannot believe in a god and believe that it doesn't exist.
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(June 23, 2014 at 11:09 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: What's the difference between everyone being gods and no one being gods? What ever do you even mean by God that is not something entirely synonymous with human being???
The idea or reality of God never existed, but men created God, everyone. . . we. . I
Created God who think and act like a man
However and according to the premises, 1 + 1 = no power. . . no reality.
It must be 1 + 0 so that it can be meaningful
But that need enlightenment ? ie. we need to really become "nothing", ie. "0"
Until that time . . it is 1 + 1
we are blind by our own spotlights. . .
We need to have god and no god so that 1+0= the meaning of life
Because 1+1=2 and that obviously makes no sense. Umm okay. Right.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Technically, anyone could be considered a god for he has the power of creation in his mind. The imagination can be a powerful tool and used to convince gullible people of just about anything.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
July 4, 2014 at 12:34 pm (This post was last modified: July 4, 2014 at 12:38 pm by Losty.)
(June 24, 2014 at 12:09 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote:
I can't, because I am God (1). . . and because the premise says it must be "no god", ie. 1 + 0
(June 23, 2014 at 11:56 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: 1 + 1 = no power. . . no reality.
A clear demonstration of your ability to think and/or properly express yourself.
(June 24, 2014 at 12:19 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: No one. . .
No. You are everything. Everything required to be worthy of questioning anything and anyone that presumes to own you, or claims to love you. You are valuable in your own life and you should surely value yourself enough to question everything.
(June 24, 2014 at 12:49 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote:
Yes, it is all GOD, including those mushrooms, trees etc. . . and there are trillions, and trillions, and trillions. . . GOD
