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Faith and Works
#21
RE: Faith and Works
(September 2, 2014 at 4:30 pm)Drich Wrote: Actually you like most religious or not default to a general comfirmation bias and seek to plug in anything that supports what you already believe and ignore the rest.

Which is very ironic given this is what Christians are accused of doing all the time.. Just FYI this is a human condition and not limited to Christianity.

I do my best to be sincere and open-minded to all considerations, actively seeking opposing points of view and disavowing dogmas when I am able (if empiricism is a dogma, it seems the very definition of sensible enough), and as a result I see no reasonable path of reconciliation to this idea of faith that Christianity relishes.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#22
RE: Faith and Works
(September 2, 2014 at 6:53 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:
(September 2, 2014 at 4:30 pm)Drich Wrote: Actually you like most religious or not default to a general comfirmation bias and seek to plug in anything that supports what you already believe and ignore the rest.

Which is very ironic given this is what Christians are accused of doing all the time.. Just FYI this is a human condition and not limited to Christianity.

I do my best to be sincere and open-minded to all considerations, actively seeking opposing points of view and disavowing dogmas when I am able (if empiricism is a dogma, it seems the very definition of sensible enough), and as a result I see no reasonable path of reconciliation to this idea of faith that Christianity relishes.

That's the thing with a command. One does not have to understand it, to follow it
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#23
RE: Faith and Works
(September 4, 2014 at 9:58 am)Drich Wrote:
(September 2, 2014 at 6:53 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I do my best to be sincere and open-minded to all considerations, actively seeking opposing points of view and disavowing dogmas when I am able (if empiricism is a dogma, it seems the very definition of sensible enough), and as a result I see no reasonable path of reconciliation to this idea of faith that Christianity relishes.

That's the thing with a command. One does not have to understand it, to follow it

A command implies a commander, and the only commanders I see clearly are other men like yourself, whom I bare no obligation to follow beyond the wits of reason.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#24
RE: Faith and Works
(September 5, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:
(September 4, 2014 at 9:58 am)Drich Wrote: That's the thing with a command. One does not have to understand it, to follow it

A command implies a commander, and the only commanders I see clearly are other men like yourself, whom I bare no obligation to follow beyond the wits of reason.

In any command their are those who issue order and those who simply relay the message.
Don't confuse the messenger with the originator of the message.
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#25
RE: Faith and Works
It's a little hard not to confuse the messenger with the originator of the message, when the messenger can't produce the originator.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#26
RE: Faith and Works
(September 7, 2014 at 10:08 am)Drich Wrote: Don't confuse the messenger with the originator of the message.
Agreed. Don't miss the forest for the trees.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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