The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)

[Joods]

Really you three?

So him saying "Um.... I'm pregnant" after she literally poured her heart out about her loss, is okay?

Wow. Just wow.

I didn't say "okay." I said "not malicious." There is a difference.

You'd think differently if you had lost a child, so yeah, it absolutely was malicious, horrible and uncalled for. By you taking his side, you literally justify his actions.

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You've all known me long enough to not expect me to always be consistent in how I display emotion. I'm a veritable rollercoaster.

That is the shittiest excuse I have ever seen anyone give on here.

[Foxaèr]

Good thing I don't make excuses. I own my behavior, especially the parts you consider shitty.

[Joods]

Sounded like an excuse to me. If not then what was that?

[Foxaèr]

An explanation.

[Losty]

Did any of you read CL's CIJS post? And my responses?

https://atheistforums.org/thread-43505-p...t=pregnant         post #6115

Do none of you see self pity in that post? I know CL was venting but what was being said was a little hard core. 

Yes, I was insensitive, but sometimes people need to hear some tough love. I've been hoping that CL would get past this for awhile but not seeing much progress. And if you haven't seen my support for CL in the past then you haven't been looking. 

If my poke in the CIJS thread and post in this thread pissed you/CL off enough to move on, well, what can I say. Maybe what I had to say had nothing to do with you moving on. But then, ................

I will take responsibility for being insensitive and I do apologize CL. I've been in a tough love mode with several people IRL for months. You might have got caught up in that, it's my fault, not yours.

I highly doubt your insensitive post had anything to do with her moving on. And I don’t think you have any idea what “moving on” even means in the case of losing a child. It’s not something you get over. It’s a pain you learn to live with yes, but it’s not a pain that ever truly moves on.

[vulcanlogician]

I didn't say "okay." I said "not malicious." There is a difference.

You'd think differently if you had lost a child, so yeah, it absolutely was malicious, horrible and uncalled for. By  you taking his side, you literally justify his actions.

I've been through something similar with my sister, Joods. The word "malicious" has nothing to do with how hurtful something is. It has everything to do with intentions. I am not taking anyone's side. Nor am I excusing anything. I am making a statement about what I thought wyzas's intentions were. Nothing more. Nothing less.

I'm not justifying anyone's actions, either. In fact, I would rather that wyzas had not even brought it up in this thread. After all this time, I think he should have let it go, or at least done some reflection on the matter.

[Joods]

An explanation.

That's a horrible "explanation" because it sounds like you need an out or excuse to act insensitive towards others. Maybe you should try working on that.

[Foxaèr]

That's nice, dear.

[vulcanlogician]

Good thing I don't make excuses.  I own my behavior, especially the parts you consider shitty.

Dude, when you fell off your bike you made a thread about it. Myself and others provided supportive posts. You may own up to shittiness, but you are still holding yourself to a different standard than CL.

[LadyForCamus]

No one gets over losing a child that they wanted. You just learn to cope. Thank evolution for that.

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No wonder she won’t come back.

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[quote='LadyForCamus' pid='1848524' dateline='1542166665']
No one gets over losing a child that they wanted.  You just learn to cope.  Thank evolution for that.

No wonder she won’t come back.  I wouldn’t either, if I learned people were mocking my grief for my dead infant behind my back.