My predicition

[Davka]

They haven't discovered life on mars dummy.....which means they most certainly haven't studied its lineage yet.

Minimalist said "There already has been discovered indicators of life on Mars.

"indicators of life" are not the same thing as life itself.

And you don't get to go yammering on about "lineage" until you define your terms. What do you mean by lineage? Will life on Mars have DNA similar to ours? Or will it simply be alive, and therefore fall under 'same lineage' because the wholly babble sez goddidit?

Put up or shut up.

[Heywood]

Life already was discovered on Mars. Are you predicting that they will discover it, again?

It was?!

Yes it was

[Davka]

Keep dodging, Heywood. All you'll accomplish is having nothing whatsoever to point to and say "see? I was right!" Unless you define your term "lineage," your claim is useless, because you can pretend that it means anything you want it to.

Or maybe that's the point? Like the anti-evolutionists refusal to define "kinds."

[jesus_wept]

I predict that life will be found outside of earth(probably on mars) and when it is examined it will be found to be from the same lineage as life on earth.

Do you think, if intelligent life were ever found, that they'd believe in Jesus too, or do you think god would've sent someone else to "save" them? Or perhaps none of the above.

[Anomalocaris]

Keep dodging, Heywood. All you'll accomplish is having nothing whatsoever to point to and say "see? I was right!" Unless you define your term "lineage," your claim is useless, because you can pretend that it means anything you want it to.

Or maybe that's the point? Like the anti-evolutionists refusal to define "kinds."

He is a theist. That says all that needs to be said, and all that can be said, about his intellectual integrity, and whether he is capable of adapting any standard of hypothesis which can in principle be capable of ever contributing towards reduction in general state of ignorance on any issue about which some religion has seen fit to bullshit.

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Life already was discovered on Mars. Are you predicting that they will discover it, again?

if life has already been discovered on Mars, then we clearly have no idea what we've discovered. The most that can be said is we found some conditions on Mars, such as Methane that seem to be seasonally replenished, that we as of yet have no explanation for other then biological processes. But while we have thought of any convincing nonbiological explanation, we haven't ruled it out either.

[jesus_wept]

Life found on mars

[dyresand]

I predict that life will be found outside of earth(probably on mars) and when it is examined it will be found to be from the same lineage as life on earth.

Same lineage no was there life on mars yes at one point it used to be exactly like earth. But same life forms... ill say no.

[Aractus]

It was?!

Yes in 1976, by evidence transmitted from Viking I. All the agreed upon conditions for life to be confirmed to exist on Mars were met. Then top scientists for NASA changed their minds, thereby creating impossible conditions (i.e. "we already agreed what would constitute significant evidence for finding life on Mars, and that evidence was found, but now we think that evidence is insufficient").

Gilbert Levin, who designed the experiment specific to this, was furious. At the 10th anniversary Viking probes party he is said to have stood up and given a speech outlining all the possible reasons why the experiment could have returned a false positive, and then went about proving that none of them could have contaminated his results. He was not invited to future events.

Don't take my word for it though, listen to the man himself:

http://youtu.be/sOIPZayCEDA

http://www.gillevin.com/mars.htm

[Anomalocaris]

I predict any life found to share heywood's lineage would exterminate itself in ambarassement.

I predict Chuckie won't be ambarrassed when he realizes he misspelled embarrassed. Chuckie has no shame.

So predicts he who titled his thread "my predicition".

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It was?!

Yes in 1976, by evidence transmitted from Viking I. All the agreed upon conditions for life to be confirmed to exist on Mars were met. Then top scientists for NASA changed their minds, thereby creating impossible conditions (i.e. "we already agreed what would constitute significant evidence for finding life on Mars, and that evidence was found, but now we think that evidence is insufficient").

Gilbert Levin, who designed the experiment specific to this, was furious. At the 10th anniversary Viking probes party he is said to have stood up and given a speech outlining all the possible reasons why the experiment could have returned a false positive, and then went about proving that none of them could have contaminated his results. He was not invited to future events.

Don't take my word for it though, listen to the man himself:

http://youtu.be/sOIPZayCEDA

http://www.gillevin.com/mars.htm

Nothing can really be considered "discovered" if majority professional opinion still thinks what was discovered is not what the self styled discoverer think he had discovered. If one day the discoverer prevails upon the majority professional opinion that what he discovered is what he thinks he discovered, we can back date the date of discovery. Until then it is not even clear any discovery had even been made.

[Aractus]

It's peer-review published, and all of the experimentally testable objections have been disproved. Life was discovered on Mars in 1976, and that's pretty much the end of the story.

If NASA wanted to follow proper scientific process they would have sent a new experiment on one of their other probes - they've refused to do this. They wouldn't just flat-out deny the results, that's completely absurd.