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God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
(April 6, 2015 at 9:51 am)robvalue Wrote: It says so right in the book. Probably. Somewhere. Well, it's implied.


Rob do you mind if i write a book about you without your consent and then i tell everybody that what is written in the book is what you said?
Would you be happy with that?  Hi Demon Hi
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#42
RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
Assuming Riketto is Christian, it's hilarious that he claims to know the mind of his god, but takes issue with the only thing that actually describes its psychology, as horribly Bronze-to-Iron Age as it is.
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#43
RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
You're asking my consent to write a book about me without my consent?
Feel free to send me a private message.
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#44
RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
(April 6, 2015 at 11:14 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Assuming Riketto is Christian, it's hilarious that he claims to know the mind of his god, but takes issue with the only thing that actually describes its psychology, as horribly Bronze-to-Iron Age as it is.


Unfortunately your assuming is totally wrong.
I am not Christian or religious in any way but i believe in God.
Does that sound strange that someone can believe in God without being religious? 
As far as claiming to know God mind there is no need to be a super brainy person.
I just believe in what make sense.
Nothing really special therefore.  Smile

(April 6, 2015 at 11:44 am)robvalue Wrote: You're asking my consent to write a book about me without my consent?


You didn't get it rob, did you?
It was all about to ridicule those idiots that believe that if it is written in the bible must be what God said.  Smile
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#45
RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
Yeah, that is the biggest con I've ever seen anyone pull off, especially on such a massive scale.

To me its main use is laughing at.
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#46
RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
(April 6, 2015 at 9:49 am)Riketto Wrote:
(April 6, 2015 at 8:02 am)Spooky Wrote: After reading the bible, and trying like hell to believe it. And failing. I simply do not understand how anybody could believe it's anything but fiction.

If god exists,  she's imperfect and evil.


Did you get the idea that God is evil because of what is written in the bible?
Are you sure that what is written in the bible is God word?  Thinking  


I got the idea that god is a terrorist from what is written in the bible.

I'm positive the bible is not the word of god.

(April 6, 2015 at 11:01 am)Riketto Wrote:
(April 6, 2015 at 9:51 am)robvalue Wrote: It says so right in the book. Probably. Somewhere. Well, it's implied.


Rob do you mind if i write a book about you without your consent and then i tell everybody that what is written in the book is what you said?
Would you be happy with that?  Hi Demon  Hi
You're implying god had a book written about her without her permission.  Ridiculous.  Why wouldn't god come down and set the record straight?

(Because she doesn't exist)
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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#47
RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
(April 6, 2015 at 11:53 am)Riketto Wrote: Unfortunately your assuming is totally wrong.
I am not Christian or religious in any way but i believe in God.
Does that sound strange that someone can believe in God without being religious? 
As far as claiming to know God mind there is no need to be a super brainy person.
I just believe in what make sense.
Nothing really special therefore.  Smile



Do you know any attributes of the god you believe in?

Besides your personal experiences that you have related here, what actual evidence do you have that this god exists?

How does it make sense to believe something for which there is no supporting demonstrable and falsifiable evidence and valid/sound logic?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#48
RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
(April 6, 2015 at 12:19 pm)Spooky Wrote:
Quote:I got the idea that god is a terrorist from what is written in the bible.

I'm positive the bible is not the word of god.

A bit hard to understand what you are saying.
If the bible is not the word of God (which by the way i also agree)
then how can you say that God is a terrorist which idea come from
what is written in the bible?
I mean why you give so much importance to what is written in the bible then?








(April 6, 2015 at 11:01 am)Riketto Wrote: Rob do you mind if i write a book about you without your consent and then i tell everybody that what is written in the book is what you said?
Would you be happy with that?  Hi Demon   Hi
You're implying god had a book written about her without her permission.  Ridiculous.  Why wouldn't god come down and set the record straight?

(Because she doesn't exist)


You as rob didn't get the irony that i did make.
If God would really intervene of course he would be really upset to see that some stupid people 
vandalize his words but again this is part and parcel of life.
If God would intervene every single time someone do something wrong then he would be here all the time
considering that people do wrong things all the time.
As i already said before a father let his grown up sons & daughters do whatever they like.
The karma law will eventually sort out all the problems.
That is how the system works according to yoga.  Hi Demon Hi  

(April 6, 2015 at 7:17 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(April 6, 2015 at 11:53 am)Riketto Wrote: Unfortunately your assuming is totally wrong.
I am not Christian or religious in any way but i believe in God.
Does that sound strange that someone can believe in God without being religious? 
As far as claiming to know God mind there is no need to be a super brainy person.
I just believe in what make sense.
Nothing really special therefore.  Smile



Do you know any attributes of the god you believe in?

Besides your personal experiences that you have related here, what actual evidence do you have that this god exists?

How does it make sense to believe something for which there is no supporting demonstrable and falsifiable evidence and valid/sound logic?


God is abstract.
The mind is also abstract.
As you can not perceive the mind with your physical senses
you also can not perceive God in a physical way so the only way a demonstration that God exist
is the same as a demonstration that the mind exist and that is through consciousness.
The less you got consciousness and the less you are aware that you exist.
A stone is not aware that she exist because her consciousness is next to zero but as you go up
and up into the conscious world you come to realize that you exist.
Some plants are more aware than other.
The climber know that if they move around in better places they will grow better.
This type of consciousness is then improved by animals and is further improved by humans.
The further you achieve consciousness and the more you realize who you really are.
When you reach the very top of human evolution then you know that there is no more differences between you and God.
God is within and you are God and his attributes lies in a state of total bliss.  Smile
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
(April 5, 2015 at 12:10 pm)Riketto Wrote: Ton.
Put yourself in God shoes for a sec.
You are the supreme, you are the only and mighty God.
One day little Ton show up from nowhere and whine that god (not God) 
if ever exist is a bullshit god (not God) because he doesn't show up.
As God you know that little Ton is not really interested in knowing you.
All little Ton want is the evidence that you exist.
What would you do considering that little Ton also lack proper respect for you in saying god
rather than God?  Thinking

For starters, if I was little Ton's creator, I'd understand why he felt the way he did and know how to react.  If I was a nice god, I'd speak directly to little Ton.  I would not wait for him to "look within" or to "look beyond the material" or anything like that, because that is unnecessary.  I'd take on a form he could see and interact with and say "hello."

If I was not a nice god, I'd know that I created little Ton to be flawed and confused and curious, but that I would never satisfy his curiosity.  I would leave him twisting in the wind for his whole life, then do something unpleasant to him afterwards to punish him without cause.  He would only ever know that I was real after his short human life was over.

If I did not exist, little Ton would be right in not wasting his time caring what I think, because there would be no god to care about.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
(April 7, 2015 at 5:24 am)Tonus Wrote:
(April 5, 2015 at 12:10 pm)Riketto Wrote: Ton.
Put yourself in God shoes for a sec.
You are the supreme, you are the only and mighty God.
One day little Ton show up from nowhere and whine that god (not God) 
if ever exist is a bullshit god (not God) because he doesn't show up.
As God you know that little Ton is not really interested in knowing you.
All little Ton want is the evidence that you exist.
What would you do considering that little Ton also lack proper respect for you in saying god
rather than God?  Thinking

For starters, if I was little Ton's creator, I'd understand why he felt the way he did and know how to react.  If I was a nice god, I'd speak directly to little Ton.  I would not wait for him to "look within" or to "look beyond the material" or anything like that, because that is unnecessary.  I'd take on a form he could see and interact with and say "hello."

If I was not a nice god, I'd know that I created little Ton to be flawed and confused and curious, but that I would never satisfy his curiosity.  I would leave him twisting in the wind for his whole life, then do something unpleasant to him afterwards to punish him without cause.  He would only ever know that I was real after his short human life was over.

If I did not exist, little Ton would be right in not wasting his time caring what I think, because there would be no god to care about.



That is bizarre.
Why would you show up to little Ton when little Ton doesn't give a damn about you?
But you never know?
Actually it happen to me one night.
I was thinking about a beautiful blonde and you know what happen?
It happen that that beautiful blonde came to me and said......here i am Rik i am all yours.
Unfortunately the mobile rung and i wake up.
It was just a dream.
A beautiful dream but just a dream.
The reality is that if you want something you got to fight for and in this case related to God
you got to show real interest not just bullshit attitude.  Smile





 
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