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Fallacies in an "Answered Prayer" explanation?
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RE: Fallacies in an "Answered Prayer" explanation?
(April 23, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Mezmo! Wrote: There are no logical fallacies in personal relationships. Getting to know your Lord and Savior is a lifelong process.

That personal relationship must feel awfully one-sided

And don't you already know him?
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#12
RE: Fallacies in an "Answered Prayer" explanation?
(April 23, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Mezmo! Wrote: There are no logical fallacies in personal relationships. Getting to know your Lord and Savior is a lifelong process.

Most children outgrow the invisible friend phase by about 4 or 5.
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#13
RE: Fallacies in an "Answered Prayer" explanation?
(April 23, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Mezmo! Wrote: Getting to know your Lord and Savior is a lifelong process.

Naa! A frontal lobotomy just takes a few minutes according to google. Barring that, a fellow can pick up rediculous self delusions very quickly, it just takes a long time to twist excuses for the story every time reality and science contradicts the tenets.
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#14
RE: Fallacies in an "Answered Prayer" explanation?
(April 23, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Mezmo! Wrote: There are no logical fallacies in personal relationships. Getting to know your Lord and Savior is a lifelong process.

Sorry, I'll reserve personal relationships for people who can actually be proven to exist. Your gawd doesn't fit that description.
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RE: Fallacies in an "Answered Prayer" explanation?
(April 23, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Mezmo! Wrote: There are no logical fallacies in personal relationships. Getting to know your Lord and Savior is a lifelong process.

Hey!  I was wondering how long it would take for a theist to start trolling this thread.  You made it onto the first page of comments.  Congrats.

Now, remind me, what's the name of the fallacy where you think you have an imaginary relationship with something but it's really just with yourself?  Argumentum as Masturbatum?
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#16
RE: Fallacies in an "Answered Prayer" explanation?
(April 23, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Mezmo! Wrote: There are no logical fallacies in personal relationships. Getting to know your Lord and Savior is a lifelong process.
Hence the reliance on emotion and internal reasoning and lack of any specific form of communication in the penpal's statements?
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#17
RE: Fallacies in an "Answered Prayer" explanation?
You could invite your friend to experiment with scaling up her prayers, and see what happens. Pray for things that have virtually no chance to happen on their own.

-Amputees worldwide to grow their limbs back
-Everyone with cancer worldwide goes into remission
-Food growth increases massively where needed to end all world hunger

That sort of thing. Deep down, theists must know that a prayer of that magnitude is an absolute waste of time and they must only pray for things which can happen anyway, or else they'll fail.

How long would she be prepared to keep praying for those things until giving it up as pointless?

I mean, come on people with these wobbly little prayers. "Oh lord, can you please alter your divine plan so I can get this job. This is the sort of thing that can actually just happen, so it's worth praying for. If it doesn't happen, that is my fault of course, not yours and I'll soon forget about it."
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#18
RE: Fallacies in an "Answered Prayer" explanation?
(April 23, 2015 at 7:29 pm)robvalue Wrote: You could invite your friend to experiment with scaling up her prayers, and see what happens. Pray for things that have virtually no chance to happen on their own.

Oh, no, no.  She already knows she can't pray for that sort of stuff.  She says that she can only pray for "expedient" things, i.e. convenient, easy, likely to happen anyway sorts of things.

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#19
RE: Fallacies in an "Answered Prayer" explanation?
I'm confused. Are Mezmo and Chad Wooters the same person?
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RE: Fallacies in an "Answered Prayer" explanation?
(April 24, 2015 at 8:03 pm)whateverist Wrote: I'm confused. Are Mezmo and Chad Wooters the same person?
Affirmative.
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