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**The Grand Nudger** · July 14, 2015 at 9:36 am

I don't think that there's -really- any issue with holding both statements to be simultaneously true, but if I have to lean one way or the other, I'm going with -just another animal. It's an awfully big "just", though.

dyresand · July 14, 2015 at 9:54 am

The lies we have been told

1. We are unique
No we really aren't

2. We are special
Again we aren't only to those who love us yes.

3. There is no one else like you.
refer to one

This is just statistics speaking we aren't all that special or unique.
We are only special and unique to those who love and care about us.

**Napoléon** · July 14, 2015 at 10:11 am

(July 14, 2015 at 9:36 am)Rhythm Wrote: I don't think that there's -really- any issue with holding both statements to be simultaneously true, but if I have to lean one way or the other, I'm going with -just another animal. It's an awfully big "just", though.

Well that is kind of the point I suppose. Both statements are true to some degree. I guess the question is more about our own perception of just how different we are.

**Napoléon** · (This post was last modified: July 14, 2015 at 10:35 am by Napoléon.)

(July 14, 2015 at 9:31 am)Atheist_BG Wrote: That's pure instinct. But have you ever seen a cat to kill another cat because the other cat doesn't believe in "the right" god? Or because the other cat is gay?

And how do you define instinct? A lot of the first article would seem to support that humans killing other humans for, what are really arbitrary reasons, is not far off a cat's instinct to play with mice. Or other animals doing good/bad things through their own choices. Like it says, it's not so much the fact that humans do good/bad for more complicated reasons, but that any animal can do good/bad for any reason based on some form of morality. Humans obviously have more complicated moral questions running through their head, but it has been shown that certain animals seem to act on some basis of morality as well as us.

~~Excited Penguin~~ · July 14, 2015 at 1:52 pm

We are both unique/special and just another animal. This black and white thing you've got going on is not really close to finding out the truth.

**Napoléon** · July 14, 2015 at 2:03 pm

(July 14, 2015 at 1:52 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: We are both unique/special and just another animal.

Thank you for the enlightenment.

Shame I already said as much.

(July 14, 2015 at 10:11 am)Napoléon Wrote: Well that is kind of the point I suppose. Both statements are true to some degree. I guess the question is more about our own perception of just how different we are.

**Napoléon** · July 14, 2015 at 2:05 pm

Oh, and what ever happened to having me on ignore?

Aoi Magi · July 14, 2015 at 2:14 pm

add a "humanity is a virus" option too

~~Excited Penguin~~ · (This post was last modified: July 14, 2015 at 2:17 pm by Excited Penguin.)

(July 14, 2015 at 2:03 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(July 14, 2015 at 1:52 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: We are both unique/special and just another animal.

Thank you for the enlightenment.

Shame I already said as much.

(July 14, 2015 at 10:11 am)Napoléon Wrote: Well that is kind of the point I suppose. Both statements are true to some degree. I guess the question is more about our own perception of just how different we are.

Big whoop

(July 14, 2015 at 2:05 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Oh, and what ever happened to having me on ignore?

Who cares? Do you?

**Whateverist** · July 14, 2015 at 2:33 pm

Every animal is special and we're one of them. Maybe we're just better equipped to appreciate the way we are special. I understand the impulse to say we're special though. I certainly wouldn't want to switch with any other critter.

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Poll: How are you more inclined to think? This poll is closed.
That we are unique and/or special	25.00%	4	25.00%
That we're just another animal	75.00%	12	75.00%
Total		16 vote(s)	100%

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