BEASTIALITY

[Cyberman]

It makes sense to me in the sense that the person is going to die no matter but the animal isn't going to be fucked no matter what.  In the case of the person, the action you're taking is deciding whether to let that person persist in a prolonged period of suffering before dying or whether to end that suffering by ending the life, whereas with the animal you are actively taking action that very well might be harming the animal.  You're attempting to alleviate known suffering in the one case, and potentially causing suffering in the other.

What about for killing an animal to eat them without their consent though?

On that point:

[Losty]

"if you're doing it in such a way that is not hurting them physically, mentally, or emotionally"

How can you ever know whether or not you're hurting an animal mentally or emotionally? We kill animals in the most humane way possible (well we try, I don't think our laws are strict enough from what I have seen of chicken farms) because it is necessary to kill then for food. We justify it because it is a normal and necessary part of nature that animals will be killed for other animals to eat for survival.

It is never necessary for animals to have sex outside of their species. It's certainly never necessary for humans to have sex with animals.

Are you personally willing to provide a viable alternative?

Not for someone who would consider an animal an option to begin with

[Godscreated]

I've been reading most of this post and say this, even if I were not a Christian I would find bestiality a bad thing and C L what did you think or did you when you brought this subject up, I would be offended if I weren't a Christian. Did you actually think the first ones to respond would be those who agree with or practiced bestiality, you should have known better. Did you think anyone would come forward after the first persons came out against bestiality, I understand what you said you were looking for and maybe you were, however I do question your motives on this. Now that's said let's move on.

I raise and show rottweilers, they do not give me consent to do this and some would say I'm wrong in what I and others do. However can anyone object to the actual benefit I and others do for this breed, we are trying to produce the best dogs we can, working to breed out serious heart issues (which I have lost one of the most beautiful fun loving rottie's to). We breed for proper bone structure and muscle structure to make life easier on the dogs, easier in their movement, their ability to work and play without injuring themselves. Our shows (Seiger) require the strictest of standards and vaccination regiment to keep them health. We work these dogs when it's very cold to very hot to produce stamina and strength in them and much more, why, to honor what they were originally bred for. You know it wasn't that long ago that people didn't have dogs for pets, they were breed to use as animals to preform services for man, that also includes cats. We use to have need for animals to do things for us because they were better at it or we didn't have the time. Example, people believe rottweilers are nothing more than bada_ _ dogs for guarding things, this couldn't be farther from the truth, these dogs were used to herd cattle for the Romans as they moved in campaigns to conquer new lands, they were also used to pull carts for them and the Romans even made saddle bags so these dogs could carry heavy loads. Later they were called butcher dogs because they would guard the shops and then were used to transport the money the butchers made to the bank, those butchers were one of the few common people who actually made a good amount of money. Then this breed went into decline and eventually some good men in Europe came together and bought every rottweiler they could find, 19 was all they found. The breed was brought back from these 19 dogs, little genetic diversity was left and this breed has always suffered because of this, we are now trying to build a healthier breed and yes we are very strict on their temperament, we also breed for extreme intelligence though this isn't very hard as the rottweiler is the smartest dog I know of and the most versatile dog when it comes to working to serve man, my bias might, just might be showing a bit here.   This breed is becoming a better breed in many ways because of what we're doing through selective breeding and artificial breeding. There are studies going on now with rottweilers that live long lives 13 or more years, to find out why they live so long. Some have been found to have a defense against cancer, when a cancerous tumor develops in them they grow a material around the tumor encapsulating it and the cancer is stopped. One rottweiler named Champ lived to the age of 16 years and was found with five different tumors encapsulated, he died of old age and not a specific illness. No one asked the dogs for consent to use them this way, but I can tell you this this breed would volunteer to do this for mankind because of their great love for people. I'm totally against animal abuse, but I'm all for humane treatment that benefits mankind and not like using rabbits to test make-up on either, that's an unnecessary choice people make and an animal shouldn't have to suffer for it. One last thing there are people who thinks it cruel to use dogs for work, but when a certain breed like a rottweiler was bred for work work is what makes them happy, I've seen it in my own rotties, it is in their genetic make up. Sorry for the long rant it's just my POV of the use of animals and their relationship with man.


GC

[robvalue]

There is an amazing new project underway which could dispense with most of the meat industry. If it works, it will create basically the same products using plants. And I mean really the same, they have found a way to synthesise haem. It would be much more efficient too, obviously remove moral issues and generally just kick ass. I live in hope that I will see the end of animals being farmed for food before I die.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-secret-o...1412725267

[Kitty Galore]

I don't know the reason why we have evolved to avoid bestiality, but it appears clear that we did.

Google beastiality, horse penis, dog penis. You will find that it is not evolved out as of yet.

It's amazing what will fit in a woman's honey hole.

Plus there a're monster and Dragon and all sorts of dildos. But those are fantasy. If unicorns were real, I wouldn't do one

[rexbeccarox]

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I've been reading most of this post and say this, even if I were not a Christian I would find bestiality a bad thing and C L what did you think or did you when you brought this subject up, I would be offended if I weren't a Christian. Did you actually think the first ones to respond would be those who agree with or practiced bestiality, you should have known better. Did you think anyone would come forward after the first persons came out against bestiality, I understand what you said you were looking for and maybe you were, however I do question your motives on this. Now that's said let's move on.

I raise and show rottweilers, they do not give me consent to do this and some would say I'm wrong in what I and others do. However can anyone object to the actual benefit I and others do for this breed, we are trying to produce the best dogs we can, working to breed out serious heart issues (which I have lost one of the most beautiful fun loving rottie's to). We breed for proper bone structure and muscle structure to make life easier on the dogs, easier in their movement, their ability to work and play without injuring themselves. Our shows (Seiger) require the strictest of standards and vaccination regiment to keep them health. We work these dogs when it's very cold to very hot to produce stamina and strength in them and much more, why, to honor what they were originally bred for. You know it wasn't that long ago that people didn't have dogs for pets, they were breed to use as animals to preform services for man, that also includes cats. We use to have need for animals to do things for us because they were better at it or we didn't have the time. Example, people believe rottweilers are nothing more than bada_ _ dogs for guarding things, this couldn't be farther from the truth, these dogs were used to herd cattle for the Romans as they moved in campaigns to conquer new lands, they were also used to pull carts for them and the Romans even made saddle bags so these dogs could carry heavy loads. Later they were called butcher dogs because they would guard the shops and then were used to transport the money the butchers made to the bank, those butchers were one of the few common people who actually made a good amount of money. Then this breed went into decline and eventually some good men in Europe came together and bought every rottweiler they could find, 19 was all they found. The breed was brought back from these 19 dogs, little genetic diversity was left and this breed has always suffered because of this, we are now trying to build a healthier breed and yes we are very strict on their temperament, we also breed for extreme intelligence though this isn't very hard as the rottweiler is the smartest dog I know of and the most versatile dog when it comes to working to serve man, my bias might, just might be showing a bit here.   This breed is becoming a better breed in many ways because of what we're doing through selective breeding and artificial breeding. There are studies going on now with rottweilers that live long lives 13 or more years, to find out why they live so long. Some have been found to have a defense against cancer, when a cancerous tumor develops in them they grow a material around the tumor encapsulating it and the cancer is stopped. One rottweiler named Champ lived to the age of 16 years and was found with five different tumors encapsulated, he died of old age and not a specific illness. No one asked the dogs for consent to use them this way, but I can tell you this this breed would volunteer to do this for mankind because of their great love for people. I'm totally against animal abuse, but I'm all for humane treatment that benefits mankind and not like using rabbits to test make-up on either, that's an unnecessary choice people make and an animal shouldn't have to suffer for it. One last thing there are people who thinks it cruel to use dogs for work, but when a certain breed like a rottweiler was bred for work work is what makes them happy, I've seen it in my own rotties, it is in their genetic make up. Sorry for the long rant it's just my POV of the use of animals and their relationship with man.


GC

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Whoah.

Anyway... I prefer a pink unicorn. It makes me feel like a princess! But Kitty's right: no real unicorns. Bestality is baaaaad.

[Cyberman]

Is it wrong of me that I read that "baaaaad" in a sheep's voice?

[ignoramus]

Hey Boru, do they still sell velcro gloves in NZ?

[rexbeccarox]

Is it wrong of me that I read that "baaaaad" in a sheep's voice?

If it is, it's even more wrong of me to have typed it that way!

[Catholic_Lady]

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