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Why shouldn't I vote Trump?
#11
RE: Why shouldn't I vote Trump?
(June 13, 2016 at 10:14 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(June 13, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: A lot of that seems like liberal fear mongering. I doubt the guy is even a Christian, and have high doubts that he will get rid of the wall between church and state. At most he'll just leave it up to the states.

You misunderstand.   With the GOP stonewalling Scalia's replacement, it will be up to the winner to nominate his replacement, as well as probably Ginsburg.  The repercussions of those two replacements will last for decades.

Bam.  6-3 conservative majority in the Supreme Court.  Guess what happens then?

P.S. He's a fucking warmonger.

A few conservative SCOTUS people for a while. So that'll mean more guns, slightly more religion in the public square IF he nominates a conservative judge, and a few more bills that can discriminate against gay people. Yeah, a few not so favorable things, but nothing that really effects me all that much, even with me being bi. 

Warmonger? How many people has he ordered to war compared to Hillary?
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#12
RE: Why shouldn't I vote Trump?
(June 13, 2016 at 10:21 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Vote for whoever you like.

Personally I LOATHE the guy.

On the other hand, I don't think Hillary is a suitable candidate, either.

Personally, I think the lesser of two evils is still the best choice.

The perfect candidate for me would be Bernie Sanders' fiscal policy, with Ron Paul's social and foreign policy, if he were pro-choice. Basically a strong social safety, with maximized personal freedom.

No politician offers me that. Since Bernie hasn't a chance, Hillary being a moderate Republican right in there with Trump, and Jill Stein most likely not having a chance either, I have no idea who to vote for. I like Trump on his policies about trade, healthcare, and tax plan that benefits the working class. I like Hillary for her stance on reproductive rights, citizens united, and the environment. I don't like either of them on foreign policy, on their stance about guns, and etc. I don't like Trump for his stance on SSI, and I don't like Hillary for her wanting to keep everything the same. So who is the lesser of two evils? Social issues, or wedge issues really, can take a back seat to the fiscal issues.
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#13
RE: Why shouldn't I vote Trump?
Go ahead and get yourself a Trump president then. I'm sure having a narcissistic know-nothing hater in that position will do wonders. Well, not exactly knowing nothing, but not nearly enough, the foreign relations part will be a nightmare..
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#14
RE: Why shouldn't I vote Trump?
(June 13, 2016 at 10:26 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote:
(June 13, 2016 at 10:14 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You misunderstand.   With the GOP stonewalling Scalia's replacement, it will be up to the winner to nominate his replacement, as well as probably Ginsburg.  The repercussions of those two replacements will last for decades.

Bam.  6-3 conservative majority in the Supreme Court.  Guess what happens then?

P.S. He's a fucking warmonger.

A few conservative SCOTUS people for a while. So that'll mean more guns, slightly more religion in the public square IF he nominates a conservative judge, and a few more bills that can discriminate against gay people. Yeah, a few not so favorable things, but nothing that really effects me all that much, even with me being bi. 

Warmonger? How many people has he ordered to war compared to Hillary?

So you only think of yourself and how it effects you alone, when you vote? Wow, says a lot about you, not good but a lot.
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#15
RE: Why shouldn't I vote Trump?
(June 13, 2016 at 10:48 pm)Alex K Wrote: Go ahead and get yourself a Trump president then. I'm sure having a narcissistic know-nothing hater in that position will do wonders. Well, not exactly knowing nothing, but not nearly enough, the foreign relations part will be a nightmare..

If he does get in, my guess is that congress and the courts would block him. Se we'd just have 4 years of a lame duck president. Would that really be such a bad thing?
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#16
RE: Why shouldn't I vote Trump?
(June 13, 2016 at 8:41 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: So the question that I'm asking you today, is why should I vote for Hillary over Trump?

I would vote for her because I know full well she will have her husband by her side, and he was a decent president.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#17
RE: Why shouldn't I vote Trump?
(June 13, 2016 at 10:54 pm)Heatheness Wrote:
(June 13, 2016 at 10:26 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: A few conservative SCOTUS people for a while. So that'll mean more guns, slightly more religion in the public square IF he nominates a conservative judge, and a few more bills that can discriminate against gay people. Yeah, a few not so favorable things, but nothing that really effects me all that much, even with me being bi. 

Warmonger? How many people has he ordered to war compared to Hillary?

So you only think of yourself and how it effects you alone, when you vote? Wow, says a lot about you, not good but a lot.

People always vote for their own interests. Welcome to the human condition, where there is no such thing as selflessness. If you vote based on guilt, then it is in your self interest to not feel guilty. If you vote based on wanting there to be more laws that favor you, then you are voting for your self interest. If you vote because you think it's important that we help people in need, then helping people in need is in your self interest. Usually people that vote for that though are simply wanting something to be there for themselves in case they fall on hard times, or if they're already in hard times. 

Don't act like you're better than anyone. We all vote for our own interests.
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#18
RE: Why shouldn't I vote Trump?
(June 13, 2016 at 10:58 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:
(June 13, 2016 at 8:41 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: So the question that I'm asking you today, is why should I vote for Hillary over Trump?

I would vote for her because I know full well she will have her husband by her side, and he was a decent president.

Clinton caused the housing crash, and he caused our jobs to be exported over seas. The only reason there was a surplus when he left is because of the Dot Com bubble. Clinton couldn't even get Osama Bin Laden. Not to mention the things he signed which hurt the black community. He wasn't really that good of a president.
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#19
RE: Why shouldn't I vote Trump?
(June 13, 2016 at 10:26 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote:
(June 13, 2016 at 10:14 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You misunderstand.   With the GOP stonewalling Scalia's replacement, it will be up to the winner to nominate his replacement, as well as probably Ginsburg.  The repercussions of those two replacements will last for decades.

Bam.  6-3 conservative majority in the Supreme Court.  Guess what happens then?

P.S. He's a fucking warmonger.

A few conservative SCOTUS people for a while. So that'll mean more guns, slightly more religion in the public square IF he nominates a conservative judge, and a few more bills that can discriminate against gay people. Yeah, a few not so favorable things, but nothing that really effects me all that much, even with me being bi. 

Warmonger? How many people has he ordered to war compared to Hillary?

a) You heard his reaction to Orlando? "more military action".
b) Who said anything about Hillary? If you want reasons to not vote for her, start a thread on that.

"If" he nominates conservatives? Precisely what sort of judges do you figure the overwhelmingly Republican congress are going to confirm?

Face it, you don't want reasons to not vote for the shithead, you're talking yourself into it.
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#20
RE: Why shouldn't I vote Trump?
I do not vote at all. If I did vote, however, it would not be for a circus clown who is quite literally using the media for his obvious acts.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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