Curious to know

[mlmooney89]

I feel like if we would be so easily swayed by someone on the internet that we have never met then we would already have been swayed by people in real life. We would have to be easily persuaded for this whole situation. Plus its a group of mostly hardcore atheists so the chances of anyone going to the other side are next to nil

[Rhondazvous]

Pretty sure the only people who have an nde, and come back talking about heaven, are religious people. Show me a story where a theist converts to a different religion because of an nde.

100% wrong brother.
If you go through the hundreds of NDEs you will find countless of ex non believers and atheists that had absolutely nothing with religions.
By the way you are not answering the question or making a comment about yes or not.  

These conversions based on special preludes of the afterlife are biblically invalid. They make faith unnecessary and without faith it is impossible to please god.

No matter how respectable they might be, they would still have to undergo some kind of trauma to have an NDE.

This god who can only reveal himself to people under trauma is no different from temple prostitutes who take drugs to communicate with spirits.

[robvalue]

I feel like if we would be so easily swayed by someone on the internet that we have never met then we would already have been swayed by people in real life. We would have to be easily persuaded for this whole situation. Plus its a group of mostly hardcore atheists so the chances of anyone going to the other side are next to nil

That's a good point. If all it takes is some stories to convince you of stuff, you're not going to be an atheist for long.

[Rhondazvous]

Most likely they would think they'd had a hallucination themselves.

[robvalue]

Indeed, yes. Being a sceptic means being as critical of your own experiences as anyone's else.

[Rhondazvous]

Questions any sensible person would ask himself after an NDE

1. Why would god give me a glimpse of eternity when millions of others are allowed to go to hell with no knowledge at all
2. What is it about this experience that calls me to take any particular action?
3. If this is god, which god?
4. What about this vision speaks to my own deep fears?
5. What about this god excuses him for all the misery humans experience on Earth?

[robvalue]

Is it more likely that:

(1) The creator of the universe (assuming there was one) decided to specifically interact with me at the exact same time that my brain was almost dying (and I'm somehow able to identify it even though I have nothing to compare it to)

(2) My brain was out of whack, due to almost dying, and produced experiences that weren't real

Seriously? Unless you're desparate to believe (1), (2) is monumentally more likely, given no further evidence.

[GUBU]

I'll say something further on this matter. When my mother was giving birth to me, her heart stopped for about a minute. She reckons she had an NDE where she was approaching heaven and was speaking to her dead relatives (including relatives of my father), but most especially her father to whom she was very close.

I don't accept that as anything other than a hallucination caused by the extreme stresses her body was under at that time. And if I don't accept a story like that from my mother (who I love and respect very much, more than anybody else really), what odds is it that a random stranger with an unverified story on the internet will change my mind?

[lisah]

Suppose some respected member of this forum had an NDE.
After that they come back here on the forum telling that God exist.
Would you believe them and give up atheism or no thinking that they just had
some sort of hallucination?  

I would think they hallucinated.

[Angrboda]

You could change the question to every atheist on the forum suddenly turning up with stories about meeting God. Any stories. I don't care. Evidence or GTFO. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and anecdotes are terrible evidence. Absolutely terrible. For anything except the mundane, they are next to worthless. Even huge numbers of anecdotes are worthless. For mundane claims, sure. For relatively unimportant claims, sure. I'll settle for anecdotes from people I trust. But not for claims regarding stuff not even understood by science. My wife tells me stories about ghosts and other such weirdness. I believe she believes them, but I don't believe her conclusions are correct.

Roberto.  

Let me saying something about science or the physical science that you mean.
The consciousness is something abstract not something physical therefore it is obvious that
the physical science is unable to understand it.

The operating system on this computer is abstract. It's also realized in the physical fact of the electrons flowing through its various circuits. That something appears abstract to you is not evidence that it is non-physical. And your assertion is far from obvious.