God is an atheist

[GUBU]

Could a being such as this that exists outside of our space-time, not merely be an observer to the events?  To say that free wil does not exist within that system seems a bit of wishful thinking to claim denial of choice or a stretch at least.  It is obvious why many would like to make this claim.  We at least have the appearance of free will in this reality.  

Merely knowing the events that will take place seems a far cry from total lack of free will and predestination in its entirety.

You see, if free will exists then god cannot know everything, because in order to know everything he needs to know what will happen in the future. Us having free will limits gods knowledge of tbe future because with free will our choices are indeterminate ahead of time.

[Kernel Sohcahtoa]

I've been thinking lately - if god has given us free will, the freedom to choose for ourselves, then he must be an atheist. Religion (Christianity in particular) is known for highjacking people's freedom for centuries (you'll either believe in god or we'll kill you), so free will can't come from religion. So, if god gave us the freedom to choose what to believe, that makes him an atheist.
What do you think about that thought?

"So, if god gave us the freedom to choose what to believe, that makes him an atheist." Atheist_BG

Thank you for posting this Atheist_BG.  Out of curiosity, If this life-form possesses the freedom to choose its own path and pursue its own dreams (just like humans), then why would it be bound by god concepts, roles, and titles?

Religion (Christianity in particular) is known for highjacking people's freedom for centuries (you'll either believe in god or we'll kill you), so free will can't come from religion.

Is this really the result of religion, or is it the result of people projecting their own truth onto their religious faith and forcing it onto others when the actual religious ideas and principles become inconvenient?

[Arkilogue]

Could a being such as this that exists outside of our space-time, not merely be an observer to the events?  To say that free wil does not exist within that system seems a bit of wishful thinking to claim denial of choice or a stretch at least.  It is obvious why many would like to make this claim.  We at least have the appearance of free will in this reality.  

Merely knowing the events that will take place seems a far cry from total lack of free will and predestination in its entirety.

You see, if free will exists then god cannot know everything, because in order to know everything he needs to know what will happen in the future. Us having free will limits gods knowledge of tbe future because with free will our choices are indeterminate ahead of time.

The future does not exist. There is only the trajectory of change of the present. Knowledge of what does not exist does not negate knowledge of all that actually, currently does exist in the manner and movement it exists in. The knowledge of the future is not required to be "all knowing"

"The future" is a construct imagined by us.

[GUBU]

You see, if free will exists then god cannot know everything, because in order to know everything he needs to know what will happen in the future. Us having free will limits gods knowledge of tbe future because with free will our choices are indeterminate ahead of time.

The future does not exist.  There is only the trajectory of change of the present.  Knowledge of what does not exist does not negate knowledge of all that actually, currently does exist in the manner and movement it exists in. The knowledge of the future is not required to be "all knowing"

"The future" is a construct imagined by us.

If god knows everything, the universe is deterministic, meaning that while the future has not appened, it is possible with sufficient knowledge of prior events and computing power (both of which an omniscient god would have) perfect predictions of the future can be made.

If the universe is non-deterministic, then an omniscient god is impossible, as he cannot know the random elements which make the future indeterminate.

Did you think, that like you with electromagnetism working differently before humanity discovered its workings, that I haven't run through my idea before making it public. There possibly are ways to refute it, but throwing out a basic misunderstanding of indeterminate processes isn't one.

[Edwardo Piet]

I see what you mean.

God doesn't believe in himself because he gave us the choice of disbelieving in him instead of just making us do what he likes.

God has low self-esteem. Makes perfect sense. 10/10.

God thinks we're all worthless cunts so I'd say his self esteem is pretty inflated... but being a nonexistent psychopath makes him pretty fucking worthless himself tbh.

[Arkilogue]

The future does not exist.  There is only the trajectory of change of the present.  Knowledge of what does not exist does not negate knowledge of all that actually, currently does exist in the manner and movement it exists in. The knowledge of the future is not required to be "all knowing"

"The future" is a construct imagined by us.

If god knows everything, the universe is deterministic, meaning that while the future has not appened, it is possible with sufficient knowledge of prior events and computing power (both of which an omniscient god would have) perfect predictions of the future can be made.

If the universe is non-deterministic, then an omniscient god is impossible, as he cannot know the random elements which make the future indeterminate.

Did you think, that like you with electromagnetism working differently before humanity discovered its workings, that I haven't run through my idea before making it public. There possibly are ways to refute it, but throwing out a basic misunderstanding of indeterminate processes isn't one.

I see you're going to ride that dead horse into the sunset. Have fun!

Why stop at all possible futures, you might as well throw all possible pasts in there, And you'll have to include all possible now's as well...just to be sure.