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The Trump presidency
#11
RE: The Trump presidency
One of the big problems with Trump is his isolationist stance. He has said he wants to pull back from NATO. Remember the first two world Wars were both started in US isolationist periods. I fear his pussy attitude will embolden strong opposition particularly Russia just when us Brits have pulled out of Germany.

Best case scenario he just fucks off after a week as he finds its too difficult for him Pence has a heart attack and Hilary gets in somehow.

Worst case scenario, the death of most life on the planet and it having to re-emerge from simple bacteria.



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#12
RE: The Trump presidency
NASA will probably still be funded enough to keep it on life support.

Uhhh...I'm still working on the other stuff.
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#13
RE: The Trump presidency
It is very important to remember that Drumpf is not the only crooked, crazy, motherfucker in the room.

It begins.

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#14
RE: The Trump presidency
(November 11, 2016 at 10:45 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Best realistic scenario Big Grin

I think the best realistic scenario has a decent chance of happening: he gets very little accomplished early on because GOP hardliners try to use their majorities to push for changes that do not have enough support among their own party and block any changes that are possible in order to force the issue.  The Democrats win enough seats in 2018 to make the hardliners irrelevant and a few items get checked off of the to-do list.  That scenario could also be the best one for Trump since it means that any support he loses from the lunatics who wanted a wall and crippling tariffs and expanded use of torture would be made up by conservatives and fence-sitters who decide that since he didn't blow everything up, he was a success.

But it's more likely that the damage he does will be subtle and felt over the long term.  I expect that the short-term economic boost that will come from relaxing regulations on fossil fuels will push climate change right off of the table for the next four/eight years.  His (and Pence's) views on science could continue to impact attempts at expanding stem cell research and on education in fields like biology, physics, and cosmology.  His picks for the Supreme Court may slow progress in a number of areas.  I am hopeful that there won't be any steps backwards, especially regarding issues like gay marriage and pot legalisation.  Like his predecessors, he has ambitious plans for spending that will lead to more deficits and more debt regardless of what he does with taxes.  And if he relaxes regulations on the banking and finance industries we might be looking at the biggest disaster of all.
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#15
RE: The Trump presidency
Best case: Trump goes of the rails to such an extent that his chief of staff (Darth Vader) and Secretary of State (Ming the Merciless) forcibly sedate him and subject him to intensive sessions of lithium treatments and electroshock therapy, after which he begins channeling Bernie Sanders.

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#16
RE: The Trump presidency
An apolitical presidency, eh?

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#17
RE: The Trump presidency
(November 11, 2016 at 11:50 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: One of the big problems with Trump is his isolationist stance. He has said he wants to pull back from NATO. Remember the first two world Wars were both started in US isolationist periods. I fear his pussy attitude will embolden strong opposition particularly Russia just when us Brits have pulled out of Germany.

Best case scenario he just fucks off after a week as he finds its too difficult for him Pence has a heart attack and Hilary gets in somehow.

Worst case scenario, the death of most life on the planet and it having to re-emerge from simple bacteria.

If both Pence and Trump die they currently get Ryan, the speaker of the House, then they get the president pro tem(of the senate) and then the whole cabinet appointed by the (previous) President(s) of the term. 

So they're kind of screwed for at least two years no matter what.
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#18
RE: The Trump presidency
What purprose serves this kind of speculation before he even parked his ass in the White House? Right now we don't even know who he will surround himself with. There's quite a freakshow making the rounds, but none of it has been confirmed as of yet. He also hasn't declared what he will actually do.

We can paint all kinds of horror shows or apologisms without having a single fact to go on. Other than his words. We would be well advised to take him at his words, since he will at least attempt to do some of the things he declared. But we don't know if he got the OK from the legislative branch.

So, a lot of question marks, but nothing to go on really.
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#19
RE: The Trump presidency
Trump orders the department of labor to start counting folks who aren't looking for work anymore as 'unemployed', and then lowers the true rate of unemployment to where it's at now.
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