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Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
#31
RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
I find it strange that anyone would actually be against having one or two armed security guards at a public school lol. Bizarro.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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#32
RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
(February 22, 2018 at 11:08 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: [Image: e7fc67e242add00a7588a2e7330606b0.jpg]

We have armed guards in casinos and banks because money is valuable.
We have armed guards in large jewelry stores because gems are valuable.
We have armed guards in warehouses because inventory is valuable.
Politicians and celebrities have armed guards because (they believe) their lives are valuable.
Museums have armed guards because fine art is valuable.

So do we value our children?

(February 22, 2018 at 9:44 am)possibletarian Wrote: I find it so frustrating when you have guns a tool designed literally to kill people stop and deter killers is not seen as a problem.

Fixed that for you.

I find it amusing that religion teaches you non violence but somehow you manage to be pro-guns.

(February 22, 2018 at 11:21 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I find it strange that anyone would actually be against having one or two armed security guards at a public school lol. Bizarro.

In my country we don't have armed guards but somehow we manage to not shoot each other.
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#33
RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
Apparently here we do. Your point?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#34
RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
Reducing violence with violence , that allways works , everytime. My point.
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#35
RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
(February 22, 2018 at 11:16 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 10:39 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think having a couple of armed guards in public schools would be a good idea. But not teachers, obviously lol.

Then what do we  do put them in theaters, hotels , parks , Or any place a mass shooting might happened ?

You've hit on the unspoken reality.  The threat of a mass shooting is so low, going to these lengths to try and stop them is unnecessary. 

If the threat matched the rhetoric about the threat, then we'd absolutely want armed protection all over the place.
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#36
RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
(February 22, 2018 at 11:25 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: Reducing violence with violence , that allways works , everytime. My point.

Lol. An armed guard protecting the school from some psycho killing kids isn't "violence with violence". It's self defence. Would you rather let the gunman finish his job? Might as well not call the cops then. What an odd thing to say.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#37
RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
(February 22, 2018 at 11:24 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Apparently here we do. Your point?

My point is were does it end . Considering a shooting could happen anywhere do were simply guard on every block ?
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#38
RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
Ironically more guns could actually work if you do it right.

Hey Muslims, Let’s Join the NRA. We Could Help Solve Gun Violence.

Quote:There are anywhere between 3 million and 7 million Muslims in the United States. There are only around 5 million members of the NRA. A mass membership drive by Muslim-Americans could effectively give them control of the organization.

It would also petrify conservatives the length and breadth of the United States. Within days, Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan would be lining up his GOP congressional colleagues to back emergency legislative measures, such as universal background checks and longer waiting times on gun purchases. Some right-wing pundits might even start questioning the hallowed Second Amendment itself. President Donald Trump, meanwhile, would probably start tweeting out attacks on the “losers” at the NRA for cozying up to “radical Islam.”
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#39
RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
(February 22, 2018 at 11:21 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I find it strange that anyone would actually be against having one or two armed security guards at a public school lol. Bizarro.

In Portugal, we have porters in schools. Usually older folk. Easily overpowered by someone intent on doing real harm, but that's clearly not a perceived threat.
I wish the US could evolve enough to reach that state of absence of perceived threat.
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#40
RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
(February 22, 2018 at 11:25 am)wallym Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 11:16 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Then what do we  do put them in theaters, hotels , parks , Or any place a mass shooting might happened ?

You've hit on the unspoken reality.  The threat of a mass shooting is so low, going to these lengths to try and stop them is unnecessary. 

If the threat matched the rhetoric about the threat, then we'd absolutely want armed protection all over the place.

Kindly don't twist my words
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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