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Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?

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Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?
FrustratedFool Offline
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Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?
December 5, 2023 at 10:36 am
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RE: Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?
December 5, 2023 at 10:39 am
Went the way of the dodo right around the time Great Men lost the ability to control how we write history, didn't it?
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RE: Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?
December 5, 2023 at 11:07 am
(December 5, 2023 at 10:36 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Opinions?

yes,  tyrants find it extremely useful for explaining why their tyranny should be submitted to.
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RE: Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?
December 5, 2023 at 11:26 am
(December 5, 2023 at 10:36 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Opinions?

It never did, since Great Men and their actions are the result of social forces and situations.

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RE: Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?
December 5, 2023 at 2:04 pm (This post was last modified: December 5, 2023 at 2:04 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
I don't really subscribe to it. I see history as a flow, and the people who make history are also shaped by that flow.

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RE: Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?
December 5, 2023 at 2:45 pm
Duke Leto Atreides: [to Paul] Your grandfather said, "A great man doesn't seek to lead. He's called to it. And he answers." And if your answer is no, you'll still be the only thing I ever needed you to be, my son. I found my own way to it.
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RE: Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?
December 5, 2023 at 3:15 pm (This post was last modified: December 5, 2023 at 3:24 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
Hoelin [to Temujin]: ‘You’re fourteen, for fuck’s sake! Get out of the yurt and make something of yourself!!’

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RE: Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?
December 5, 2023 at 10:28 pm
Great men, great women, great civilizations and dynasties, great actions, great calamities, great conflicts, great evils, ..............................

Mundane rarely makes it into the books.
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RE: Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?
December 5, 2023 at 10:37 pm
(December 5, 2023 at 10:28 pm)brewer Wrote: Great men, great women, great civilizations and dynasties, great actions, great calamities, great conflicts, great evils,  ..............................

Mundane rarely makes it into the books.

But what about mundane that rises to greatness? Audie Murphy?
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RE: Does the Great Man approach to history still have use?
December 6, 2023 at 2:45 am
(December 5, 2023 at 10:37 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(December 5, 2023 at 10:28 pm)brewer Wrote: Great men, great women, great civilizations and dynasties, great actions, great calamities, great conflicts, great evils,  ..............................

Mundane rarely makes it into the books.

But what about mundane that rises to greatness? Audie Murphy?

We only know about Murphy's mundane origins because of his rise to greatness. That's kind of the point.

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