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and who are the theists here, Eleven?
December 9, 2020 at 11:13 pm
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so who's cherry picking?
December 9, 2020 at 11:13 pm
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The impression I keep getting is the people of no religion being ignored in the article
December 9, 2020 at 11:12 pm
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and/or ignored all the parts about religious people
December 9, 2020 at 11:12 pm
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As if I said the article is totally about atheists.
December 9, 2020 at 11:12 pm
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lol, that's what I call strawmanning
December 9, 2020 at 11:11 pm
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Theists have perfected the art of only honing in on that which particularly interests them. Cherry pickers extraordinaire.
December 9, 2020 at 11:00 pm
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Yeah the article is totally about atheists if you ignore all the parts that are about religious people.
December 9, 2020 at 10:12 pm
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Religious people are more positive about religious diversity in Britain. Compared to being in the No religion (our reference category), being Christian and being in the Other religion group (respondents from non-Muslim minority faith backgrounds) reduced the likelihood of being negative towards religious diversity (by 21% and 42% respectively).
December 9, 2020 at 11:34 am
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December 9, 2020 at 11:32 am
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And a good way to understand what this means is to read the rest of the article.
December 9, 2020 at 11:17 am
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The article title is certainly confusing. However, unlike most articles where one expects to find what the entire article was about in the conclusion, in this particular instance it appeared in the very beginning: "Religion is the “final frontier” of personal prejudice"
December 9, 2020 at 10:09 am
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no FM, it's talking about attitudes based on or with regards to religion, whether stemming from religious or atheistic folks. And it's not a hard argument to make that atheists also have this problem of being prejudiced against religious folks. For example, would you be comfortably ok if someone you cared about were to get married to a Muslim?
December 9, 2020 at 3:28 am
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In Dante's time, Italian people considered Islam to be a schismatic break-away from Christianity. Dante (in a book he knew to be fiction) depicts Mohammed in the part of hell reserved for those who divide families, cities, and other groups against each other. Nowhere does he say that all Muslims are in hell. In fact he says clearly that we can't judge, and on the Last Day a lot of good Christians will be surprised to see who is in line ahead of them.
December 9, 2020 at 1:38 am
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No, it's talking about religious people being against other religious people, I gave you the sample quote. And it's talking about bigoted people like Belacqua when he praises that medieval bigot Dante Alghieri just because he put all Muslims in Hell along with Mohammed.
December 9, 2020 at 1:33 am
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It's amusing that Fake would bring this up in the hopes of criticizing religion, when he is exactly the type of person the survey describes -- prejudiced about religion but not race or country.
December 9, 2020 at 12:44 am
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The study finds that people are more likely to have prejudice based on their or others' beliefs about religion than about race or nationality. This is fully in line with what we see on this forum, where there's little or no prejudice against black or gay people, but open and unashamed prejudice against religion, especially Islam.
December 9, 2020 at 12:43 am
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Whether we're talking attitudes of religious people or of atheists and such.
December 8, 2020 at 7:49 pm
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The study isn't saying religion is the top cause of prejudice or anything like that. It's saying that attitudes about other people's religious faiths contribute to prejudice more than, say, one's race.
December 8, 2020 at 7:48 pm
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Also this: Among Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, Buddhists and people of no religion, the majority felt uncomfortable with the idea of a close relative marrying a Muslim. Among Christians, there was a significant minority.
December 8, 2020 at 7:47 pm