Jesus came to me in a dream. The very next morning all my fishing tackle had gone missing.

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Given that his death saves a lot of lives (according to the story, I mean), what is the objection in this case? Is it Jesus dying that is objectionable in whatever argument you're trying to make, or something else?

Jesus committed suicide, and?

It's not derailing if I'm trying to figure out what you're trying to get at here.

And why are you constantly trying to derail this conversation about Jesus's suicide to be about me?

why the indignance exactly?

what is the problem with a "suicidal Jesus" for you as an atheist?

but seriously, putting the argument of sucidie or not aside

it's sacrifice as well, depending on the intention

Romans killed Jesus, and yet Jesus was supposedly a supreme being, creator of the universe--so it is a suicide. It's like if a guy lies down on an anthill and lets ants eat him alive.

Also even if we all agreed Jesus committed suicide according to the story, what exactly bothers you about this in the case of Jesus?

But this is just you needing this chance to criticize religion every chance you get even if at the expense of reason

Jesus didn't kill himself according to the story. The Romans did.

The only way out of that dilemma seems for Jesus to have forced people to believe. Any thoughts on why he didn’t?